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dapper
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 13 Aug 2013    Post subject: Motorcyclist and child killed in Gunnersbury Avenue crash Reply with quote
i heard he was decapitated
https://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2013/08/12/motorcyclist-and-child-killed-in-gunnersbury-avenue-crash-64767-33718419/
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 13 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Minimum age of pillions introduced in 3... 2...
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PostPosted: 05:45 - 13 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Police say no other vehicles were involved, but if you ever rode around there you would definitely have had a car drive straight out of a side road without looking. Unforced error or some blind bastard in a silver Nissan?
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nighthawk250
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 13 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
A 10 year old on the back of a bike at 1.50am, how times change, should be in bed and safe by 8pm.
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 13 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Motorcyclist and child killed in Gunnersbury Avenue cras Reply with quote
dapper wrote:
i heard he was decapitated

Well, that would count as "severely injured".

Early morning, no other vehicles, I'm going to go ahead and assume some combination of Certain Substances, unlicensed, uninsured, unhelmeted, uncompliant with speed or road signs and/or TWOCed.

So sure, let's throw a minimum pillion age into that mix in ... 2... 1...
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 14 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Any more information on this very sad accident.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eh, "Juan Foreigner" was implicit in my list above.

Bit sad for the kid though. Sad
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
Minimum age of pillions introduced in 3... 2...


Suprised this isnt in force already!

Law states that the correct age is 'When they are able to reach the footpegs' Shocked Shocked
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
GazP wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
Minimum age of pillions introduced in 3... 2...


Suprised this isnt in force already!

Law states that the correct age is 'When they are able to reach the footpegs' Shocked Shocked


What's wrong with that?
If the child mentioned above was a year older would it still be alive?
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/father-and-son-killed-in-motorbike-crash-were-travelling-home-from-family-party-8758873.html
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:

What's wrong with that?
If the child mentioned above was a year older would it still be alive?


Of course not...

I'm just suprised how young the kids can be, especially in such a vulnerable environment.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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vulnerable environment


Like the world?
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Even if they introduced a minimum age on pillions, it's hard to get a child's age if they lie about it and bump it up. As long as the age required isn't too dramatic they can get away with it.

Dad always got me in banger racing etc by saying I was younger than I was, I just went with it. They could never prove otherwise anyway. Wink

Just to clarify: My dad would knock my age down to get money off the tickets, so I'd go in as a child rather than a teenager. Laughing Or sneak in when they aren't looking, or arrive a little later and come through the mechanic pits. Laughing Good olden days.
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GazP
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
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vulnerable environment


Like the world?


If the world had you moving at a constant 30mp/h+ with unpredictable objects moving about then yes Smile
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
GazP wrote:
If the world had you moving at a constant 30mp/h+ with unpredictable objects moving about then yes Smile


The traffic is predictable, to a point.

Get back to me when you have a few miles under your belt and your spidey sense kicks in.

Right now, any opinions you have on the dangers or riding a motorbike are worthless.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
GazP wrote:
If the world had you moving at a constant 30mp/h+ with unpredictable objects moving about then yes Smile


The traffic is predictable, to a point.

Get back to me when you have a few miles under your belt and your spidey sense kicks in.

Right now, any opinions you have on the dangers or riding a motorbike are worthless.


Seems I've rattled your cage, not meaning to start a debate.

Not sure where i stated what i was saying as fact, just joining in on the post Wink.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thorn wrote:
GazP wrote:

If the world had you moving at a constant 30mp/h+ with unpredictable objects moving about then yes Smile


Right, because that's the most dangerous situation the child has ever been in... ever. Rolling Eyes

You sound like one of the health and safety fannies that banned kids from playing proper rugby in favour of 'touch rugby'.


Probably one of the most dangerous a parent can voluntarily put them in, wouldn't you say?

Seems everyone has a bit of a chip on their shoulder about this topic!
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
GazP wrote:
Seems I've rattled your cage,


Not in the slightest.

I just wanted to point out that you have little, if any, riding experience yet you thought it was a good idea to throw an opinion out there based on SFA.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
GazP wrote:
I stated that bikes are dangerous and riders are vulnerable, am i incorrect?


Very incorrect actually.

Since when has a motorbike been dangerous?
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
GazP wrote:
bikes are dangerous


Nope, never been attacked by one.
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