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c-m
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: New on the spot fines Reply with quote

What do you make of the new fines that have recently come into force.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23713732

Amongst them are lane hogging, and failing to give way, but as a biker the one that caught my attention was:

• Overtaking and pushing into a queue of traffic
• Inappropriate speed


Does this now mean we're likely to get fined for filtering?

What the hell is inappropriate speed? I bet it won't get applied to those driving too slowly, like it probably should do. Instead they'll use it to say you went xx mph through that big puddle, my car could only go x mph through it. That kind of nonsense.
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PostPosted: 07:36 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: New on the spot fines Reply with quote

c-m wrote:

Does this now mean we're likely to get fined for filtering?


Likely not, since it actually requires a police officer to be somewhere in the vicinity at the time of 'offence'.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: New on the spot fines Reply with quote

arry wrote:
c-m wrote:

Does this now mean we're likely to get fined for filtering?


Likely not, since it actually requires a police officer to be somewhere in the vicinity at the time of 'offence'.


I'd assume they would be looking more for cars in terms of these offenses. Bikes ease congestion so fining us for not sitting in traffic would only cause them more problems.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the day. You'd have got a stern telling off and quite possibly a fine, just for being on the 'overtaking' lane on the motorway when there was no one on the left to overtake.

It should have stayed that way. But it gets harder to enforce when ever increasing traffic is doing more of the same thing.

Maybe they can do automatic licence plate detection and then send off the fine by post like they do for bus lanes or yellow boxes? Or would the police have to physically stop them?
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
But it gets harder to enforce when ever decreasing numbers of police are on the roads and they've not designed a camera that can fine you for anything other than speed or jumping a red light just yet


FTFY

Seriously - in the 600 ish miles I do a week at the moment, I'd be surprised if I see a copper a month.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the user can take pictures of cars in the wrong and at the end of the day give it to a team of people to start looking up addresses and start posting away?

And yes, Police on the motorway are rarer than police in police stations.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
Surely the user can take pictures of cars in the wrong and at the end of the day give it to a team of people to start looking up addresses and start posting away?

And yes, Police on the motorway are rarer than police in police stations.



Pictures won't work. It's like me showing them a picture of someone speeding. Laughing A video maybe.. But still.

And people that do that obviously have no lives. Sad sad people.

The end of the day, we all make mistakes, I've run reds because I was carrying a tad too much speed more than once. Do I really deserve points??
Would they rather I stop halfway in the junction?

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PostPosted: 11:19 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: New on the spot fines Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
What do you make of the new fines that have recently come into force.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23713732

Amongst them are lane hogging, and failing to give way, but as a biker the one that caught my attention was:

• Overtaking and pushing into a queue of traffic
• Inappropriate speed


Does this now mean we're likely to get fined for filtering?

What the hell is inappropriate speed? I bet it won't get applied to those driving too slowly, like it probably should do. Instead they'll use it to say you went xx mph through that big puddle, my car could only go x mph through it. That kind of nonsense.


Police Police https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=276995 Police Police
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
arry wrote:
Seriously - in the 600 ish miles I do a week at the moment, I'd be surprised if I see a copper a month.

When you do they don't really seem to care anyway. I filtered past a copper the other day, then undertook another one later on. Also overtook a car infront of a copper & they didn't do anything.


There was a load of traffic backed up behind a police transit on the A13 yesterday, it was doing 50 in a 50, so naturally I undertook a car (that was sat in the outside lane matching the Transit's speed) and went past at an indicated 58. They couldn't have cared less.

My friend is a policeman and he says that he either does 60 or 80 when on a motorway, if he does 70 he gets big tailbacks of people afraid to go past.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: New on the spot fines Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:


Surprise surprise like most posts in the wrong bloody section of the forum. Typical for this site.
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