Fuck the DVLA?...

[Commuter_Tim]

...or just me being a dipshit?

Well first off, I've received a few letters from the DVLA (below), but I genuinely don't know if its just me being thick as pig shit (known to happen) or they're trying to bum me.

I have a piece of shit scooter I haven't wanted for a while, and yet to rid myself of it.
This scooter has been on private land for about a year, and cancelled the insurance way back when I stopped using it.

The latest letter says they want to do me for £100 failure to insure.
One of their letters states that I must re-tax or SORN my vehicle, before 31st of august, yet the other threatening letter is dated and states that I failed to insure or SORN by the 7th august...

To clear up a few things,
I know very little about my rights or the law.
I did wait until tonight to SORN it, procrastination is a bitch.
As stated in the letter, it is absolutely true that the vehicle was not insured on 07/08/13, however it was my understanding that insurance not required when the vehicle is off road?

Anyone fancy weighing in on whether this just another case of the DVLA trying to fuck people in the arse? or am I getting things wrong?

(btw those spots arent grease stains, they pissed me off, so I pissed on the letter...)

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The above post is most likely nonsensical.

I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[P.]

Insurance isn't required, but if its not insured, it needs to be SORN'd.

However, DVLA can come round and lick my toilet bowl after a vindaloo before I pay them any bribes.

[Fowlersrs]

But if uve not declared it as SORN for all they know u could be riding it on the road uninsured?

[CaNsA]

But you sent in the "sorn my vehicle" form last month.....

[P.]

[CaNsA]

[J.M.]

Those letters detail different things.

The first details that your tax is about to expire.

The second is attempting to prosecute you for not having the vehicle insured. If your vehicle is taxed but not insured for a single day, technically you are committing an offence. As Paddy says, no insurance then you must SORN it.

I'm pretty sure (but can't be arsed to check the legislation) that failure to insure requires you to prove that you did declare the vehicle as SORN rather than the DVLA having to prove that you didn't. As a result I don't believe that the thing CaNsA is getting at would work in the court of law.
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[P.]

<facts>
DVLA are robbing cunts.
</facts>

All DVLA threads should be in the new part of the forum titled Cunts.

Sorted.

[smithyithy]

As said, if you're not insuring a vehicle it must be declared SORN.

They pick up straight away if a vehicle is taxed but not insured, as they instantly assume it's been used illegally.

If you're not using the vehicle, you need to SORN it ASAP. Whether that will cancel out the 'uninsured vehicle fine' is another matter..

You could plead ignorance and claim that the vehicle wasn't in use since whatever date, and you were unsure about the uninsured / SORN combination law bollocks, and hope they let you off.

If not, SORN it and pay the £100 fine.

P.S. Fuck the DVLA still, even if that was OP's fault due to lack of knowledge / laziness / stupidity / literally had better things to do than hand over cash pointlessly to these fucking ass-clowns.

[Rogerborg]

[P.]

[Vincent]

Ring 'em up and tell them you've been abroad on a holiday or a work-break....or sommat. Be really polite, act thick & worried and ask what you should do to get your name of her* computer screen

* Cos it will be a "her".
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[Rogerborg]

[P.]

Fuckers gonna make me change my pre-court fuck you letter

[sabian92]

Really don't get this "you must SORN it or we'll bum you" approach.

What's stopping you letting the insurance run out, SORNing it so you don't have to pay VED AND insurance and still riding around on it?

Chances of you being picked up by an ANPR car are slim at best anyway.

[J.M.]

[Hetzer]

It's the DVLA and UK govt conspiring together to criminally extort money from the public. But they're the govt, so their crime is legal by virtue of some scumbags signing bits of paper and rubber-stamping fancy logos all over it.

This is the kind of criminal BS we have to put up with in this shithouse cuntry. From our very own public servants.
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[Commuter_Tim]

Guess it seems short of court I'm not getting out of this one, chalk it up to being a lazy twat then.

I have the money right now, but how long do you think I could hold off on paying them before they take me to court?
I want to at least make those thieving cunts work for my money.
Got unlimited mobile calls , may have to call and waste their agents time on a daily basis too...
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The above post is most likely nonsensical.

I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[Ballpien]

If it's an 08xx number then it'll only cost you even more in phone calls
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Looking forward to the 5,000,000th post in 2017

[DrSnoosnoo]

As many have said, respond with, "I posted the declaration off ages ago!"
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[Rogerborg]