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PostPosted: 12:54 - 18 Aug 2013    Post subject: Piaggio Zip 50 2T mixer oil change-- Is it possible? Reply with quote

Hi,
Again, apologies if I am repeating questions asked on other threads, however, I don't think anyone has addressed this question before.
After reading a post somewhere in the forum, I bought myself one of those cheap hand pumps and tried to pump all the old mixer oils out of my bike (as whoever put it in there must have used the cheapest stuff available, constant and heavy white smoke out of the exhaust, I almost killed several people at my local Costa Coffee when I started my moped up the other day;) I think some of my smoke is still lingering today!).
Anyway, having bought the pump, I tried eagerly to put the suction end into the oil hole under the seat, and to my shock, there was a little bend in the pipe with a constriction (probably to stop Peale from stealing the oil in this very same fashion!)... So, I can only pump out about a tablespoon full of oil using that method! I am sure there must be some way to drain the stuff out of there? It seems a bit silly that the only way you can get rid of the oil is to either burn it or take your bike apart!
Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance for thanking the time to help a complete idiot out! Smile
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PostPosted: 05:19 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take that fitting out of the tank, have someting to catch the oil waiting underneath. Alternately, and how i drained mine. Get second hand two litre milk bottle and let gravity drain it overnight.
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PostPosted: 05:19 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take that fitting out of the tank, have someting to catch the oil waiting underneath. Alternately, and how i drained mine. Get second hand two litre milk bottle and let gravity drain it overnight.
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PostPosted: 07:12 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberkron wrote:
Take that fitting out of the tank, have someting to catch the oil waiting underneath. Alternately, and how i drained mine. Get second hand two litre milk bottle and let gravity drain it overnight.

Thanks for your reply.
Does that fitting come out of the top? How do you remove it? Also, when you say to let it drain overnight, are you saying there is drain cock on the bike for the mixer oil? Where is it?
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking from behind the back wheel and then up, just loosen the hose clamp and the fitting pulls out. The check valve is built into the fitting, it doesnt stop the flow, it just stops it reversing. Try thinning the old oil with fuel.

My oil tank is now my reserve fuel tank, and i run premix. The drive bush on the fuel pump lasts about 10,000miles, the belt a bit longer.

There is no drain cock, just take the hose for the pump feed off to let the oil out.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberkron wrote:
Looking from behind the back wheel and then up, just loosen the hose clamp and the fitting pulls out. The check valve is built into the fitting, it doesnt stop the flow, it just stops it reversing. Try thinning the old oil with fuel.

My oil tank is now my reserve fuel tank, and i run premix. The drive bush on the fuel pump lasts about 10,000miles, the belt a bit longer.

There is no drain cock, just take the hose for the pump feed off to let the oil out.

Thanks for the info, I will have a look later on today and give it a go. It sounds quite simple! As for thinning the old oil, the bike is only 1 year old and I don't think the oil is old, just cheap quality! Do I still really need to thin it? I was thinking of getting rid of as much as I could and just replacing it with good quality and low smoke/low ash oil. I really don't use the bike that much and would rather not have to mixing oil and petrol if I can possibly avoid it Smile. If you think I really need to thin it, just to get it all out, then I will now to your experience, as I am a complete noob (Not Nob! Wink ) when it comes to all things moped!
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PostPosted: 07:47 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thin it if heavyweight oil was used, otherwise if most of it drains out, just top it up with new oil and let it burn it.
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberkron wrote:
Thin it if heavyweight oil was used, otherwise if most of it drains out, just top it up with new oil and let it burn it.

Makes sense!
Thanks again for taking the time mate, it's much appreciated!
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