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rk8479
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: advice for A1 Mod 1 test Reply with quote

I'll be taking my mod 1 test on Monday and wanted dome advice about the test, I have seen some videos about it on YouTube but want some advice from other riders Smile

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PostPosted: 22:31 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just try be relaxed and focus on what youre doing, remember to do your shoulder checks at the correct points thats a common thing you might fail on if you become preoccupied with the task ahead. Should do fine Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 22:35 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou, also what type of questions do they ask if any, will it be about the bike, the test, safety or other?
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Questions are at the start of module two. Can find a list of possible combinations here https://www.cardiffmotorcycleschool.co.uk/motorcycle-training.asp?i=37

Just watch a load of youtube mod 1 vids if you havent already to get a broad idea Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no questions in mod 1 just the manoeuvres. Each is easy in itself but it can be easy to panic so just relax and take big breaths between each element. They are easier than you might expect - you have lots of room to do the U turn in for example, so just keep your head up at all times and if you feel like you want to put your foot down then up the revs a little.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys, i'm surprised at how quickly i got the place as the theory test i had to wait 2 weeks before the test but the test center near me had mod 1 places availible every day next week, i thought i might of had to wait longer then the thoery
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this video helpful, if you haven't seen it already.. Roadcraft Nottingham - Mod 1
Not sure how up to date it is, but it gives a good idea of what to expect.
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PostPosted: 04:25 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tip? Okay here goes (caveat - worked for me, might not for others). A bit of rear brake trailing goes a long way. I'm talking about the slow manoeuvres here, obvs - cones, and u-turn. To maintain a nice, smooth slow-speed you're using the clutch, and having a few revs on there can be a good thing. But using the bite point alone can unsettle the bike slightly - so bring in a bit of rear brake. Don't jab at it - it has to go on lightly and carefully. Done properly it can iron out wobbles, and act as a nice corrective measure. But the key is SMOOTHNESS - throughout. And if you haven't been doing it on the practice yard, your Mod 1 might *not* be time to experiment. That said, as long as you're smooth, you'll be fine. And obviously, try to keep away from that front brake on the slow stuff - plunging forks aren't what Derek wants to see, and front braking can create all kinds of unsteadiness when you're cone-weaving and whatnot. As you know.

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PostPosted: 07:06 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true, but I wouldn't try and change your riding style over the weekend or give yourself more to think about. There's really nothing hard about the manoeuvres, there's loads of room and time.

For the swerve and e-stop, go round the bend in 2nd gear, pin it, don't change up and don't look at your speedo. Keep on the throttle until you're right at the speed gates, then come off it.

Don't press the rear brake while stopping, that's asking to lock the rear wheel up and get a fail. Just put your foot on the pedal, the examiner can't tell whether you're actually using it or not.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Don't press the rear brake while stopping, that's asking to lock the rear wheel up and get a fail. Just put your foot on the pedal, the examiner can't tell whether you're actually using it or not.



It's possible to pass with a massive rear-wheel skid, and the throttle still open revving the tits off Embarassed Wink
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember your life saver shoulder checks at all times, even when asked to pull away from car park and ride into test area. And when completed and asked to leave test area and return to parking bays.

Pushing bike: Make sure you leave the bike neutral! If you screw this up, discreetly hold in clutch whilst you pull it off.

Figure of 8: go really far wide of the cones. You only have to go between the cones, the far cone has no outer boundary you have to stay within. Make it easy for yourself, don't pull a tight figure of 8.

For all the low speeds manoeuvres, the key is clutch. Get the revs up and hold them, then work the clutch. Many falter and put foot down from too little revs, or take out a cone from jerky movement due to controlling speed with throttle instead of clutch.

Corner, e-stop and swerve:
After the first non-speed gauged zip round the corner, ask the examiner politely how fast you went through the gates. Will help you gauge if you need more beans or not on the next two speed tested runs.

e-stop: Don't panic brake, you will have loads of stopping distance to brake within, and progressive build up brake pressure.

Swerve: Don't stare at cones - you will clip them! Focus you gaze on the spot to side of them where you want the bike to go.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 18 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

one thing i have a question about is do i have to use a signal on the U-turn, i know its only maneuvers but they say it should be treated as a public road?
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 18 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the use of indicators is not required on mod 1.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 18 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your time. When he asks you to do anything then shoulder check, (he'll ask you to turn around and face the other way in your own time), remember shoulder check. Tell yourself how to perform the manouver, then just do it. Wink

The only thing I found disconcerting was doing the high speed manouvers whilst gunning it. They weren't hard but I had always been up to speed when doing them during my practice.

Good luck and don't sweat it.

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PostPosted: 10:16 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, i passed it, only had two faults and it was for going just under the required speed for emergency stop and avoidance maneuver

Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations, onward and upwards from here. Smile


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PostPosted: 11:59 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, also one question i would need to know is as my bike isn't fitted with hazard lights would the instructor on my mod 2 still ask me about them? also my bike is automatic and theirs no visible chain so would they ask questions about the chain if any for my bike? Thanks
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the [url=https://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_197378.pdf]show me / tell me questions[/url.

There's nothing about hazards (mine didn't have any) and the chain question is a "tell me" but says "Tell me how you would check the condition of the
chain on this machine."
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


There's nothing about hazards (mine didn't have any) and the chain question is a "tell me" but says "Tell me how you would check the condition of the
chain on this machine."


would that mean they wouldn't ask it as i know it has a drive belt but that's hidden in the engine on the bike i have
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely no idea, my fine fellow. Why not find out how to check the belt tension anyway? It'll build some character.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the pass! I think for mode 2's show & tell they will only ask questions relevant to the bike that you have.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, also will i be able to speak to the instructor on the radio or is it just them talking to me and thats it?
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ollie1995 wrote:
Hi, I'm doing my mod 1 soon, did you get to practice the maneuvers before the actually test?


i only practiced the ones i thought i would have trouble with, i practiced the slalom and figure of 8 in a private car park in an industrial estate near me. However on the test day i found these easier then i thought they would be, my main problem on the day was getting my speed up for the emergency stop and the avoidance, i got 2 faults because of the speed, it was only minor speed fault like going 1-3 kph under the required amount


Also the avoidance task was harder then i thought as the cones were closer or felt closer then they did when i watched a video of it on youtube.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 19 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I failed my first mod 1 for being 2-3kmph under the target on each attempt. You have to really go at it on a 125 to get upto speed i think Thumbs Down
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