Private parking charge

[Tungtvann]

I know it has been discussed on here before, but I just wanted to check if anything has changed.

Parked my car in a private car park at the weekend, bought a ticket and displayed it in my car. Returned to find my car has a notice on it, I was 5 minutes late, so thought they were sneaky fuckers, until I noticed the time of the notice was 20 minutes before my ticket expired.

I went to the website and filled in the appeal form, attaching a copy of my purchased ticket and the parking charge notice, but I did not want to give them my name and address like they said I had to.

Already had a reply informing my that I MUST inform them of my name and address if they are to consider the appeal.

Am I opening myself up to any trouble by providing them with this information or should I ignore all further correspondence? I already worded strongly to them that I will not be threatened by their tactics (already had a threat of court action at this point).

Do I:

A) Ignore everything from them, knowing that I paid my ticket and it would never get to court, let alone stand up in one.

B) Provide them with my details, but make it easier for them to post shit to me with threats about fines, court and debt collection agencies. If they try and bullshit and claim that I didn't actually have a ticket on display that is.

C) Travel to where the company director lives (whom I am in correspondence with and know where his house is) and *do nothing at all, but imagine doing nasty things to his property, vehicles and himself*.

[kerr]

Unless its from the council ignore it.
Ooooor if you have the directors address it would (hypothetically) be funny to plaster all his vehicles with bogus parking tickets
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[Tungtvann]

I've read varying accounts online about whether to ignore or not, they really have no grounds for any court case, but I'd rather them fuck off now instead of it being drawn out for ages.

The director lives literally 5 minutes from where I am based, I know what he looks like, he looks like he'd scare easily too. I'm just dreaming of course, I'd never consider shouting naughty things at him from across the street.

[smithyithy]

You say you were 5 mins late, I'm guessing that equates to around 20p theoretical lost revenue for them, yet they're asking for about £50, right?

Go to his house, knock on his door, politely explain who you are and your situation, and hand him the 20-or-so pence in change, explaining it's all he deserves and it's all he's getting, then leave and cut all contact.

Oh and say you'll rape his daughter if you hear anything else*












*don't do that.

[Tungtvann]

No, I'm not admitting I was late, the charge notice was issued BEFORE my ticket expired.

[iMark]

Name: Mr I.
Surname: Responsible
Address: (Local Police station address)


See if they like that.
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"G" : you got him to have a look at a forum which seems to have established a picture of an erect penis in a cat's mouth as it's mascot and thought he might consider it ok?

[Tungtvann]

[iMark]

Chances are they will sell your information to advertising companies then you will be called every day at around tea-time by "Stephen" who is clearly named Omar in real life.
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"G" : you got him to have a look at a forum which seems to have established a picture of an erect penis in a cat's mouth as it's mascot and thought he might consider it ok?

[Skudd]

Ignore it. If it ever gets to court, it wont, then take the ticket and your parking ticket to show that it was issued incorrectly, then get down the small claims court and put a claim in for your time and trauma it has caused against them.
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[Tungtvann]

Righty-o. Will do. I'm not bitching out to this little punk, I shouldn't need to explain or justify myself and waste any more time when I paid for the parking anyway.

COME AT ME BRO, YOU WILL BE SORRY.

[Joncrete Cungle]

PM me the name of the Private Parking Parasites, do not reveal information online, the cnuts trawl forums looking for victims. DO NOT BLINDLY IGNORE IT!!! Hundreds of ignorers every week now get court papers.

Drivers / registered keepers are being taken to court and plenty of them are getting a shoeing, sadly.

[Rogerborg]

Is that because POFA (on my reading of it) actually legalises extorting whatever crazy penalty charge is on the sign, rather than the "genuine pre-estimate of loss" (generally nothing, or ) that folk had been successfully arguing?

If so, well colour me shocked, shocked, I say, that legislation drawn up in consultation with the parking industry actually turns out to do the exact opposite of what it professes.
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[jeddy11]

If you want it to go away then id say give them the information and as you have the proof it will get dropped..under data protection they can't do anything with it..

Ignore it could go on for months ...

can you be bothered with the hassel ?
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[Joncrete Cungle]

[Rogerborg]

I'm saddened but not surprised to hear it.

My suspicion was the the PoFA provisions were a deal whereby the clampers and towers would cease their very visible and unpopular activities in return for their racket being legitimised by a specific law.

The celebrating at PePiPoo and elsewhere was rather premature and apparently based on a selective reading of PoFA. Taken in the whole, it looks to me to provide an appallingly convoluted and tortuous (pun intended) document for the ghouls to wave around and scoff "Oh, facts, you don't need those when you've got a law."
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[keggyhander]

The ticket I received for parking in a disabled space in Meadowhall SEEMS to have gone away. The last shouty letter was received three months ago.

If it by chance went to court, I would say to the beak, "I have broken no law, but it could be said I had parked discourteously. Meadowhall have made no material loss, considering the £200 I had just spent in Currys. If it pleases the court, I will willingly donate fifty pounds to a disabled charity of the bench's choosing, provided that no monies are taken from myself and given to parking vultures.

I commend this moral choice to the court."

[Tungtvann]

Should I send an email informing them that I am in fear or giving out my personal details to a company that I have heard bad things about? That way, if it ever gets 'taken to court' like he says, they could see why I was reluctant to disclose my personal details to someone whom I don't know.

According to the toilet paper they placed on my car, an appeal must be made within 28 days. I'd rather not shoot myself in the foot, ignoring everything when I really could try my luck and give them my details hoping they'd honour (hahaha, yeah right) my quite rightful claim. I know it's easy enough to get my details fromt he DVLA, so am I really changing anything by not giving them it now?

I'm not really bothered by what they may send to me, but I'm likely to deploy on ops sometime over the next few months and all mail would be going to my parents', I'd rather not have them deal with assholes knocking on the door whilst I am away.

If they denied my appeal, I'm ready to go full retard on them, but is it worth trying to see if they aren't complete assholes?

[Joncrete Cungle]

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted

[Joncrete Cungle]

You have not identified yourself to the PPC, wait for them to buy the registered keepers details from the DVLA. Then appeal to the PPC, 99.9% of the time the PPC rejects your appeal. As the PPC you are dealing with is BPA AOS they have to accept your appeal or reject it and allow you to appeal to the 'impartial' POPLA

DO NOT ADMIT TO BEING THE DRIVER! Or you potentially kill off your POPLA appeal avenue and may well end up in court. POPLA is binding on the PPC but not on the driver / keeper. It is imho better to kill the issue stone dead via POPLA than risk trying to defend yourself in court and potentially end up being ordered to pay hundreds of pounds for feck all.

[G]

I'm far from up on the details, but could you suggest that if they don't cancel the ticket immediately, you will be billing them for any further time you have to take up in the matter.
What's the going rate for a 'legal' letter these days?

[Rogerborg]

I appreciate that you don't want to get too clever, but if you change your mind then I love this response and would allow it to do its damndest to father children on me.
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[Nick__C]

Not sure if it's already been mentioned as I skim read, but I'm pretty sure that even if they were correct in fining you it has to be proportional to the loss that your alleged parking offense caused them?
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