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Shinigami
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Do they have to honour it? Aria.co.uk Reply with quote

So, I noticed a misprice on arias site the other day, a gtx 760 for £118.

So i obviously bought it, got a payment confirmation email but then later an email stating it was mispriced and to call to pay the rest or the order would be cancelled. This was 2 days ago and it hasn't been cancelled yet, however the payment is showing as completely made on my online statement for the original price.

Do they have to honour this with the payment being processed or can they still wriggle out of sending me the goods?
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I was aware they don't have to honour it if it's a genuine mistake.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably only out of goodwill. They can just refund you the money.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

gash, was quite looking forward to a bargain upgrade
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it the case that once they've taken the money they've entered into a legally binding contract?
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

apparently not, done a bit of searching and due to them stating (in the t&c's the payment confirmation is not an acceptance as they send an acceptance confirmation after payment (which they haven't sent me) they will just refund it

will have to wait a bit longer to upgrade from my 4870, new bike first
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Do they have to honour it? Aria.co.uk Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
So, I noticed a misprice on arias site the other day

/story.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can stick what they like in their T&Cs, it doesn't give them standing above the law.

As I understood it, so may well be very wrong, the advertised price is an 'Invitation to treat' i.e. an invitation to buy the goods at that price. Once you offer the money and they accept the money the contact is done and sealed.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good few years ago I went to hire a car, because of a fuck up on the website I paid something like £92 for a peugeot 407 for 10 days with unlimited miles, when I went to collect it they flat out refused to let me have the car for that price, but after almost an hour, several phone calls to managers etc, they said they had to honour the price Twisted Evil

Mind you the car was a heap of shit with no power, had to drop to 1st gear for even the slightest slopes, still didn't stop me taking it to Scotland and putting about 2,500 miles on it
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smart ones are now claiming that the contract isn't concluded until the goods are dispatched.

Which seems to piss over the intent of the right to cancel in the DSRs, since you can't cancel a contract that doesn't exist yet, but really, your rights are what you assert and enforce, not what you're gifted.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that even if the contract is formed when they take payment, they can still say they aren't going to ship the goods, and your only recourse is a full refund (which I imagine they'll give no problem).

There's all sorts of reasons why a company might be unable to send you something - e.g. you buy the last of a particular item, then when they go to the warehouse, it turns out to be broken / damaged. DSR doesn't mean you can demand their warehouse manager flies out to China to source a replica to send you, it means you either get the item you ordered or a full refund.

If they'd sent you the item, then I'm sure you could keep it and they couldn't say "no, please send it back", but I don't think there's anything in Distance Selling saying that the retailer can't cancel the contract before it's completed.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its really shitty as most other places will either honour the price or pull the item from sale (if it's in a shop) for 48hrs.

Aria.co.uk are being twats imo.
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Every effort is made to ensure that prices shown on the Supplier's website are accurate at the time you place your order. If an error is found, the Supplier will inform you as soon as possible and offer you the option of reconfirming your order at the correct price, or cancelling your order. If the Supplier does not receive an order confirmation within 14 days of informing you of the error, the order will be cancelled automatically. If you cancel the order, or if the order is cancelled automatically due to the expiry of the 14 day period, the Supplier will refund or re-credit you for any sum that has been paid by you or debited from your credit card for the goods.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are allowed to do that. Just imagine you put your bike up for sale in a classified, and you used a full stop (ie decimal place) instead of a comma and someone bought your bike for 10.00 instead of 1,000 I'd imagine you would everything you could to say you made a mistake and that wasn't the real price.

If you was to dispute in court what aria have done there are two problems with your argument.

1) A sale has to be made in good faith. If there is a mistake that you notice but don't query, then that is a valid ground for rejection. You can't deliberately take advantage of a mistake.

2) Both parties have to complete the contract for it to apply. As aria noticed the mistake they did not wish to continue so they had every right to cancel and not send the item without extra payment or offer a full refund
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_godfather wrote:
They are allowed to do that. Just imagine you put your bike up for sale in a classified, and you used a full stop (ie decimal place) instead of a comma and someone bought your bike for 10.00 instead of 1,000 I'd imagine you would everything you could to say you made a mistake and that wasn't the real price.


Hasn't a few auctions disappeared from ebay etc for similar reasons?
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 31 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
the_godfather wrote:
They are allowed to do that. Just imagine you put your bike up for sale in a classified, and you used a full stop (ie decimal place) instead of a comma and someone bought your bike for 10.00 instead of 1,000 I'd imagine you would everything you could to say you made a mistake and that wasn't the real price.


Hasn't a few auctions disappeared from ebay etc for similar reasons?


Those would be the classified adds for brand new fireblades at £10

when you look at the ad it's for a finance deal for the rest of your life for £99 per month, the £10 being to get you to look at the ad
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 01 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:

Those would be the classified adds for brand new fireblades at £10

when you look at the ad it's for a finance deal for the rest of your life for £99 per month, the £10 being to get you to look at the ad


I make a point of reporting any of those. Aside from anything else, they're pointless. The people who are in the market for a brand new bike are not the same people who are looking at £100 bikes. All these ridiculous misleading ads do is clutter up the listings of fixer-uppers that us broke bastards might fancy a play with.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 01 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried this with play.com many years back when they had entire James Bond DVD collections on their site for £9.99 instead of £99.99.

I bought 10 of them and a few days later got an email to say they had cancelled it as it was a genuine mistake.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 02 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invitation to treat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 02 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
They can stick what they like in their T&Cs, it doesn't give them standing above the law.

As I understood it, so may well be very wrong, the advertised price is an 'Invitation to treat' i.e. an invitation to buy the goods at that price. Once you offer the money and they accept the money the contact is done and sealed.


There's a difference between them checking to see if they can get the money and actually taking it. The first will leave a shadow on your account (how long depends on your card company/ bank) but wont actually take the money - although your card issuer might suggest it's 'spent' money for the duration of the shadow.

With the, relatively, recent move to try and get all card customers to use 3d auth* a lot of companies will not actually take the money until they are ready to pack and ship.

*3d auth guarantee still doesn't guarantee payment because banks/card companies use 3rd parties to do the 3d auth bit - there's no financial data, no checking if you have funds etc.

They'd also use E&OE (errors and omissions excepted) for pricing etc.
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