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Sable
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Road side puncture fixes Reply with quote

Hi

I have been left stranded three times with my little bike in the last year. 2 punctures and an electrical issue *cough*killswitch*cough* >.>

Had my secound flat tonight about 30 miles from home. MCE / AA left me stranded (cheers guys!). So looking at quick fix puncture thingys. Ive seen that slime stuff (just squirt it in and re inflate?), is it any good? Alternatively, them puncture repair kits, do I need to pull off the wheel to repair to use them? Not keen on pulling the rear wheel off Embarassed

Are there any other great ways for dribbling simpletons like me to quick fix puntures at the roadside?

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PostPosted: 21:19 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

had a friend who had a puncture on a ride out and used the squirty stuff, got him home ok, even if it was just a limp home at 30 fix. Better than stuck at the side of the road, only problem is carrying it around.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I found out I had a puncture whilst riding the air pressure had completely gone and it felt like I was riding on ice. Ended up riding the bike about 2 mile to get it to a relatives; very interesting riding on the rims.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plug kits can be used without removing the rear wheel - although I'd recommend carrying some extra CO2 cartridges to get some decent pressure back into the tyre.

Slime type products are put into the tyre ASAP (before it's punctured) and left there. The idea is that if you get a puncture you remove the offending object and it self seals.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
The plug kits can be used without removing the rear wheel - although I'd recommend carrying some extra CO2 cartridges to get some decent pressure back into the tyre.

Slime type products are put into the tyre ASAP (before it's punctured) and left there. The idea is that if you get a puncture you remove the offending object and it self seals.


I read on the UKGSER forum that you won't get much more PSIs into the tyre unless you carry about a dozen of the bastirts. I believe two or three was the most practical. They're small things but take up a lot of space when there is a bunch of the cnuts.

I have two of those kits for emergency emergency but I have Puncturesafe in the tyres so never get punctures.

'I' am 100% convinced Punturesafe is the answer. My 200+MPH bike has that shit in the tyres too. Cool
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 04 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on if you have tubeless or tubed tyres.

If it's the former I carry a "Tip-Top" plug kit. Used these plugs several times to good effect. I can confirm that three air cannisters will put something like 24psi into a 160 section tyre which is enough to get you to an airline.

If it's the latter, I carry tools to remove the wheel, a spare tube or puncture repair patch kit, a set of tyre levers, a valve pulling tool, a small bicycle pump and (essential) a bit of soap wrapped in clingfilm. I simply repair or replace the punctured tube. Again, you usually need to find a proper airline to get the bead fully seated but the bicycle pump will get you there.

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Depends on if you have tubed or tubeless tyres.

If it's the latter, I carry tools to remove the wheel, a spare tube or puncture repair patch kit, a set of tyre levers, a valve pulling tool, a small bicycle pump and (essential) a bit of soap wrapped in clingfilm. I simply repair or replace the punctured tube. Again, you usually need to find a proper airline to get the bead fully seated but the bicycle pump will get you there.

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PostPosted: 08:24 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got stuck last night on my CG

put in a full can of that "holts tyre repair" stuff, looks like expanding foam, tyre lasted 5 mins then was flat again

absolutley crap

i ended up walking about 4 miles pushing my CG
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave70 wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Depends on if you have tubed or tubeless tyres.

If it's the latter, I carry tools to remove the wheel, a spare tube or puncture repair patch kit, a set of tyre levers, a valve pulling tool, a small bicycle pump and (essential) a bit of soap wrapped in clingfilm. I simply repair or replace the punctured tube. Again, you usually need to find a proper airline to get the bead fully seated but the bicycle pump will get you there.

Seriously? Shifty


Why not?

I used to carry much the same on my tubed tyre bikes. I could be back on the road in much less time than the RAC would have had the first vehicle out to me.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:


I read on the UKGSER forum that you won't get much more PSIs into the tyre unless you carry about a dozen of the bastirts. I believe two or three was the most practical. They're small things but take up a lot of space when there is a bunch of the cnuts.

I have two of those kits for emergency emergency but I have Puncturesafe in the tyres so never get punctures.

'I' am 100% convinced Punturesafe is the answer. My 200+MPH bike has that shit in the tyres too. Cool


I carry four of them on the Hornet. It'll get me to a garage. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puncture safe in my tyres and it has worked

had a rear puncture pulled the nail out the puncture safe sealed the hole
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used one of those rubber puncture repairs on my rear tyre when I managed to get a screw in it. I was a little worried about it being a temporary repair, but after seeing (I think) stinkwheel say he's used it for long term repair and used at high speed with no ill-effect, I've found it to be a long-lasting repair. Should certainly do until I replace the tyre at the end of the tread.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Roberts wrote:
'Slime' is cracking stuff. I used to carry a tin of it under the back seat everywhere, until it had finally got bored of being battered everyday and exploded. Thinking back it was just like the Topgear test with Sodium and Eels in a boot. Took ages to clean it all out.


Slime the green stuff that comes in a non-pressurised plastic bottle?
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry a tubeless kit with canister under the seat. There are only enough to inflate one tyre to about 30psi but lots of inserts.
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Tire Tackle kit, quick and easy to use and permanent. Remember to carry a hobby knife and some bicycle rubber solution though since they aren't included in the kit.

Co2 is a waste of time, four or five bottles only puts about 18psi into a big bike tyre. Better off with a can of tyre weld , I also carry a small electric tyre inflator.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
I used one of those rubber puncture repairs on my rear tyre when I managed to get a screw in it. I was a little worried about it being a temporary repair, but after seeing (I think) stinkwheel say he's used it for long term repair and used at high speed with no ill-effect, I've found it to be a long-lasting repair. Should certainly do until I replace the tyre at the end of the tread.


I was repairing bus and pick-up tyres in the desert using the TipTop string system. Reamer, 'Special' string adhesive and the coated string 'plugs'.
The hole is reamed, the string plug threaded through the 'open' eye of the needle tool until it is in the middle of the string then dipped in the glue, the string is pushed through the hole and twisted half a turn then the tool is pulled out leaving the string in the hole.
The glue reacts with the compound on the string and the repair is good after about 10 mins.
We could run a tyre repaired like this past the wire.
We normally lost tyres for common reasons such as: Running too hot due to 40°C+ daytime temperatures. Overheating due to drivers ignorance with regards to tyre pressure setting. Overheating due to rough rocky 'skid' roads for 180+KM (in 40°C temps) and normal nails etc.

The plugs worked when used and we never had to revisit any plug repair. So in other words, plugged tyres worked as well as patched tyres.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
'Slime' is cracking stuff. I used to carry a tin of it under the back seat everywhere, until it had finally got bored of being battered everyday and exploded. Thinking back it was just like the Topgear test with Sodium and Eels in a boot. Took ages to clean it all out.


Slime the green stuff that comes in a non-pressurised plastic bottle?


They have it in an aerosol now.

Must have been developed and brought to market this morning just to fuck you up sickpup. Bastirts.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stabby thing, rubber worms and a small bicycle footpump with a pressure gauge (so not just for emergencies). I do have a more capacious box than Paris Hilton, mind.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Stabby thing, rubber worms and a small bicycle footpump with a pressure gauge (so not just for emergencies). I do have a more capacious box than Paris Hilton, mind.


Aye that may be so but I bet your box hasn't had as many wurimz in it as Ms Hilton's.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Thanks guys. Will get some slime when I get my bike back.

Cheers
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
Hi

Thanks guys. Will get some slime when I get my bike back.

Cheers


Quite a few tyre places have a hissy fit if they get that stuff over their tyre machines.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry a slightly different kit. Mine has 2 plastic 'screw keys' and some compressed air. The idea being, you get a puncture, remove offending object (nail etc) then take the plastic key and screw it into the hole. once its in all the way, you snap of the head, and fill with air.


https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/motrax_k004.jpg
One of them, but without the pliers(and more CO2)

I was shopping around for a roadside repair kit, and thought it looked easier than the "make the hole bigger then smush in some rubber, glue, cut it off etc" type ones Embarassed . Never had to use it so no idea how well/if it works though.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got some of those rubber strand type things to poke into a hole. Now stash them under the seat (along with co2 canister) after a local bike garage recovery chap came out to me, showed me how to use them and escorted me back for new tyre.

However last puncture, was a huge shard of glass in back tyre, too big for these strands to plug. RAC chap came out, and used a bigger rubber bung thing to plug the hole, smothered it in rubber glue compound and then got me going again.

I'm told many couriers will ride around with half a dozen of these patches in the tyres without problem! However I swapped new tyres on in both instances, as the tyres were getting low on tread anyway - possibly why they succumbed to punctures in first place.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Sable wrote:
Hi

Thanks guys. Will get some slime when I get my bike back.

Cheers


Quite a few tyre places have a hissy fit if they get that stuff over their tyre machines.


THOSE PLACES ARE MUCHO GHEY. Official.

I just had the tyres on my bike replaced. I told the shop that there was sealant in.
"Aye, no problem mate."
Two tyres on the Mrs' car with sealant...
"Aye no problem mate."

Only Preemadonnah Bawbags bleat about this. It needs only a bit of courtesy to let them know you have sealant in when you hand the keys over.
The stuff is non toxic and if the fitter isn't a useless lazy bastirt and removes the valve before pushing the bead off the rim there is no worry.
Rims SHOULD be cleaned and inspected before a tyre is fitted so there is no excuse for this.
How do you know you're in a fukwit garage?
You switch your engine off but the whining continues. Embarassed
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