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SDemeda
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Newbie. A2 Test coming up, thoughts on which 47BHP bike. Reply with quote

Hi guys, first off - hi! I'm new to the forums and must say that I love the community going on, helping each other etc.

I was hoping I could join the community and listen to some advice.

I have rode motorbikes since I was about 6 years old - but I have only been on the roads since January (I'm 21 in March, and I only have a CBT).

Initially, once I pass my test, I wanted a motorbike I could just sit on, with me and my missus, stick a tent on the bike and just, well, go.

This led me towards the Yamaha Fazer 600 (restricted).

BUT - I am unsure of restricting a bike, I'd like to feel as much as possible on my first real bike, and not a castrated version.

ALSO - I had a quick little go on my cousins Aprillia Habana '99 (?) and a friends CBF125 - and I actually really like the position & style.

Bottom line - can anyone recommend any bikes that:

1. Can hold enough luggage to go away for a weekend
2. Is comfortable for both rider & pillion on long journeys
3. Looks awesome (my opinion is broad, love super-sport looks, but also BMW GS)
4 (optional). Can be customized well.


I know, I'm not asking for much Embarassed

Cheers guys,

Sam.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot to add: reliable and cheap. Wink

That reminds me: what's your budget?

The Fazer would be great, but like the Hornet, it claims just over 70kW, so it's not suitable for restricting down for an an A2 license. That's not to say that you'll find anyone who knows or cares, but be clear in your own mind.

The range of A2 compliant bikes with "super-sport looks" is tiny: ancient 400s plus a bunch of Suzukis: GS500F, SV650S with lower fairings, GSX650F. Forget CBR600s, Thundercats, Gixxers (and don't trust MCN power figures!)

If you don't want to restrict then the GS500 (naked or faired) is one of the very few 500+ bikes that doesn't need restricted for A2. The others are the G650GS (pretty vibey, your missus might enjoy that though) the NC700S/X and the new CB500 variants, plus a couple of cruisers.

It's a scunner, but that's where those mongs in Brussels have left us with the 35kW limit. If you decide to go restricted (and a convincing looking piece of paper will cover you in the majority of situations) then that opens up loads more bikes. CB600, all the sub litre "adventure" bikes, Bandit, Gladius, Divvys, ER6.

I wouldn't rule out the Honda Deauville either. It might not be the most thrilling of bikes, but it's got built in luggage, is designed for comfort, and it's a bike, it'll do bike things. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a restrictor for the Fazer.

From what I can make out, it only works on pre 04 models.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-Fazer-600-Restrictor-Kit-33-BHP-certificate-NOT-FZ6-S2-/321197117157?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ac8d70ee5


The BMW G650 GS seems your best bet. Big and looks great.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam277 wrote:
Here is a restrictor for the Fazer.

That's a 33bhp (25kW) one. OP is looking for a 35kW kit.

The old FZS600 quoted just over 70kW, so it's really a judgement call about whether you'd want to go for it - if you can find anyone selling a kit.

Anyway, tests first, you'll be in a much better position to decide once you've done some riding on an A2 bike.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got a bit of money to throw at a bike, triumph and Kawasaki are bringing out A2 compatible versions of the street triple and z800.

Edit: The triumph is a bit rubbish pillion wise though.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 05 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

could do an XT660X at native, dad says not bad two up with a 14 stone lad on the back and a slightly more one on the front, tall they are though.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 06 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly a Bonneville! Didn't actually realise they make them A2 compliant now.
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SDemeda
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 06 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
adam277 wrote:
Here is a restrictor for the Fazer.

That's a 33bhp (25kW) one. OP is looking for a 35kW kit.

The old FZS600 quoted just over 70kW, so it's really a judgement call about whether you'd want to go for it - if you can find anyone selling a kit.

Anyway, tests first, you'll be in a much better position to decide once you've done some riding on an A2 bike.


Cheers for the big list of bikes in your first message Rogerborg! Some great advice.

I didn't realise the GS650 was A2 legal! Just have to find the funds once I got my license now Smile
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 06 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jord35 wrote:
If you've got a bit of money to throw at a bike, triumph and Kawasaki are bringing out A2 compatible versions of the street triple and z800.

Edit: The triumph is a bit rubbish pillion wise though.


Hmmm. Any news on the releases of these bikes?
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SDemeda
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 06 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

passifid wrote:
could do an XT660X at native, dad says not bad two up with a 14 stone lad on the back and a slightly more one on the front, tall they are though.


I'm unsure of these bikes - they just don't do it for me.

Cheers anyway Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 06 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDemeda wrote:
Hmmm. Any news on the releases of these bikes?

The Z800e is out now and I'm not sure when or in fact if triumph are doing the A2 compatible version. It was on a list of A2 bikes I read the other day but after having a quick look online I couldn't find anything.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 07 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I jumped up from a ybr to a er6n (33bhp) back In march.
Other than the shit stock tyres, and the okish rear shock, I love it.
I'm young, and the insurance isn't bad (£500, tpft)
Iv done just over 7k on it and it's still keep
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