advice on cornering......

[dolly3900]

Ok, been a fully fedged motor bicyclist for about a month now and have found that I am finding that whereas on the 125, I could throw it into corners with confidence at 50-60, on the bigger bike (CBF600), I find myself dropping it down to about 40 just to be sure of getting it around.

Any advice would be welcomed.

Was thinking of taking a track day up in Pembrey to see if that would help, or is it just better to ride the CBF and get used to it over time as the confidence builds?

Cheers

Mike

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Whichever way you choose to do it..track?...road?..bedroom? Do it progressively. i.e take your time and you'll enjoy it.

There are videos of Twist of the Wrist II. It's extremely cheesy yet the best. Watch it and try to implement 1 thing.
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[Jonathan A]

I found the Twist of the Wrist II vid very useful. It shows techniques which aren't quite as important on a 125

[dolly3900]

Cheers guys, been relaxing and letting the juices flow, so to speak.

daily commute seems to be a breeze now

ta

Mike
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[smob67]

The one and only bit of advice that still sticks and still hold true is look where you want to go, bike,car and truck still holds true.

[gmc38609]

I found everywhere I watched/read said stick to the outside of the corner until you can see around it then move across.

I find this extremely nerve racking and have decided just to stay in the middle all the way around.

Moving over to the middle of the road where cars are coming towards you makes your amount of error space smaller which made me nervous so stopped doing it. Also if a car swerves wrongly there is more chance of them clipping you.

Who came up with that fcking idea anyway?

[totalllama82]

[RhynoCZ]

I went from NC27 to ZX7R and got slower, it is a trust issue. I blame the 190/50 tire on the back and the engine.

My advice, move your bottom into the direction you want to turn it. The bike will stay more upright and get more confident and stable.
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[deadwolf]

[waffles]

Drop down a gear before you go into the corner as you then get more response from the throttle when you roll on the power exiting the corner.

Or, as the Bikesafe copper said to me "I want to hear it scream"
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[gmc38609]

Same as counter steering everywhere goes on about it So every corner I thought must counter steer but then after a while realised you push on the side your going otherwise you will full off its a natural movement on balance.

I go around corners slowly but I am getting quicker but I have taken the pressure off myself now,

Trying all the advanced techniques did not really work for me I am down to do ROSPA where they teach you properly and that's the only way to learn them IMO

[Snorty]

I find the bigger bikes need more input from you as a rider. When I ride my mate's NSR you can adjust stuff just by thinking it, on the GSXR I tend to use more bar input (probably because I'm going faster and need more effort to counter the gyroscopic effect).

I'd say just keep riding and you get better bit by bit.
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[SteveZZR]

Track riding is worlds apart from road riding. You might get more confident on the road still I guess.

I found picking third gear and not worrying about shifting helped.

Work out a gear you can do about 40 in with high enough revs to get good response, but plenty of revs left to do 60 without being right at the top.

This way you can just roll off into the corner, not worry about shifting and just use engine braking to slow off a little and then have plenty left to just roll on through and out of the corner.

Do this for a while, and then worry about shifting and such.


Also, I ride a CG125 and a ZZR600 regularly: a 600 flat4 will be much more physical to ride than a single.cyl 125 even at the same speeds.