Tokico 6-pots

[Snorty]

Front caliper needs a serious service. I'm after the full seal set (£58 on Wemoto). I realise the caliper is common to a few bikes, will the seal set from a ZX9 be the same?

I also hear they're poor calipers.
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[Matt B]

As above, look at fitting a set of 4 pot nissins. The 6 pots are poor in comparison.

Give these guys a call and see if they have any refurbed 4 pots in stock.

https://www.powerhouseautomotive.co.uk/content/brake-caliper-service-sheffield-yorkshire.html

I have used them before, they know what they are talking about and they are helpful. I got them to refurb the calipers on my ZX7R just because I didn't have the time to do them myself.
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[stevo as b4]

Has anyone got any brake test info or measured stopping distances tests for the same bike when fitted with Tokico 6pots and then Nissin 4pot calipers.

I found that if the Tokico calipers are well looked after and bled correctly, then with decent pads they are a very strong front brake. Not as strong as Summitomo monoblocks, but still very good. I've used Nissin 4pots on some Honda's and found them no better at best and sometimes worse than the Tokico's, but this could have been down to pad choice etc.

[RhynoCZ]

I don't know, I'm in the same possition my self at the moment, but I won't change the calipers. There is a reason why Kawasaki and others picked those 6 pots. Japs are not stupid, they even used tokico 6 pots in SBK.

If new callipers cost the same or more than new set of seals, then I'd keep those six pots where they are.
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[Fizzer Thou]

I think that it was Performance Bike magazine who modified a GSXR1000K1 or K2 with some 4 pots from a GSXR750 and found them to be lighter and stronger than the OEM calipers.
My brother fitted some Aeroquip hoses and a Brembo master cylinder to his 1000K1 and found a worthwhile differance once he had fitted some better pads.
A TL1000R owning friend had problems with his 6 pot calipers and once we had stripped and cleaned both with new pads,the feel and power was not bettered until the fitting of a Brembo master cylinder.Not sure what pads were fitted though,which can make a massive differance in feel,feedback and braking power.

I fitted some Sumitomo 6 pots to my Exup 1000,replacing the standard 4 pots.The OEM calipers were okay,but there was a clearance problem between the pistons and the caliper body.This caused the pads to drag,causing premature wear and the speed to drop when they got hot.Once I found out that the calipers from the YZF750R bolted straight on,there was no brakes dragging,more power and feel as well as an increase in speed.
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[Vincent]

[Musketeer]

I like 6-pot Tokicos. Very good brakes imho

I had no problems with bleeding them.. a bleeding kit for 6 quid from ebay made it so easy.
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[Fisty]

They are fantastic brakes when they work, after a full service they are great. The next morning they will be fucked.

Junk them.
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[Fisty]

For the price of a full service on the 6 pots i fitted a radial conversion kit. The are fantastic and havnt furred up even after being used in the rain!
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[Vincent]

Aye....standard brakes not needed but, interestingly enough, they're introducing a price cap on the brakes for 2014

Each brake manufacturer will have to supply a list of parts for approval, at a fixed price, and free of a service contract.

No six pots then



https://motomatters.com/analysis/2013/08/27/analyzing_the_details_of_the_2014_world_.html
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

From what I remember one of the issues with the 6 potters aside from their incredible ability to bind when used in conditions other than hot and dry, was a lack of lever pressure from the OE master cylinder.

Upgrade the master cylinder and that should give you better feel and power.
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[RhynoCZ]

I was just wondering, are there any callipers that would fit with no mods?
New seals are about 55 pounds and I think, I could get used calipers for about 65-70 pounds, with some work, of course, it'd be a bit more. My mate's got OEM Nissins on his '98 Fireblade, never touched the seals.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

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[totalllama82]

I still run with the Tokico 6pots on my ZX9. After a rebuild with new HH pads they are awesome.

5 minutes later they need rebuilt again. If you're at a crossroads with the 6pots and the Nissin 4pots - it's a no brainer. Go for the 4 pots. I've sank far too much cash into my 6pots to give up now.
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