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BikeNewbie
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 12 Sep 2013    Post subject: Original or Street fighter? Reply with quote

Hello,

Well I was trying to sell the parts and they didn't sell twice. So have now decided to either put back to original or street fighter it.. Properly.

It's a Kawasaki ZX6R 1997.

The frame, fairings and clocks were destroyed. But everything else is pretty much there!

Now what do I do? Found a Frame and possibly fairings. But not sure what the better option is considering it will be done then sold.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 12 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: Original or Street fighter? Reply with quote

BikeNewbie wrote:
street fighter it.. Properly.

Do you mean make it in to a complete tarts hand bag of a bike?

Personally, I'd say get it ridable for the cheapest possible if you're going down that route.

What were you hoping for, for the parts?
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 12 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was something to do to keep me occupied with throughout the next few months after a serious motorcycle accident.

No, I was looking at just standard streetfighter bars but also upgrading brakes. Also other things perhaps if suggested.

Well more than £400. Couldn't even get that.

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PostPosted: 23:52 - 12 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This newer bike which has less damage and is one piece was up for £600. I'd suggest £400 was unrealistically high for what you described.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99-kawasaki-zx6r-light-damage-/161089923910

A crash damaged F model went for £256 here:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZX6R-/161071019261

Spending more money on your damaged bike to sell it seems silly - I suspect you'd be much better off selling it and spending the time earning money, than spending a good bit of cash and time getting it back to shape.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand what your saying.

Just would of been a good project for ultimately pennies and would of made my money back I would of thought. Also as I'm without and cannot ride motorcycles for a long time it would of kept my hobby going.

Perhaps not?

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PostPosted: 08:55 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original has got its value, streetfighter does not and looks awful, mostly.

So, original or nothing, I even hate 80's, 90's and even 00's bikes with LED turn signals.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much paperwork do you fancy doing?

The frame and its VIN is the bike. If you do it above board then you'll scrap your frame and registration and start over with the reg number and V5C that goes with the new frame, even if every other part is from your bike.

You should to tell DVLA about the engine swap. T'intardtubes suggests that they may or may not want to see an engineer's report (e.g. from an MOT station) confirming that, depending on their mood.

As to making even pennies back, consider that the best case is that you'll be selling on the frame and reg that you're looking at buying. Once you start advertising it as "Yehbut the motor is from a year X bike and despite the previous MOTs recording Y miles on plate A, it's really done Z miles on plate B..." then any sane buyer is going to click "Next".
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg as always a very good post haha.

That is true, I still have the frame, so any potential buyers of the new bike if I did it could see it.

I want to do it all legal. The new frame does have the v5 and is all legal. It came from a bike that was more worth in breaking it thn selling as a whole.

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PostPosted: 14:16 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a G model, 98 running with everything bar a radiator for £300. £400 at the start of the shit season is a no go.

For everything bar frame and engine, ~£200. They won't need all the bits anyway Laughing
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BikeNewbie
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right.

Well the question I'm aware most might think just leave it and there's no money to be made.

But would it be more profitable to streetfighter it properly and not fuss with fairings or should I put it back to original which may be more costly.

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PostPosted: 15:57 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BikeNewbie wrote:
But would it be more profitable to streetfighter it properly


Properly, no. More profitable to weigh it in as to do it properly will involve time, fabrication and resources. These = £££
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So more so original? I just want to make my money back, I'm not expecting profit really.

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PostPosted: 16:29 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much money do you want to make and what parts do you have...
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what I'd spend on the frame and a few other bits and bobs mate.

Frame is around 180.
Indicators
Front and rear lights
Levers
Clocks
Chain and sprockets

That's pretty much it. Possibly fairings if I decide to do it original.

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean they are the parts I need. I have everything else.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is stopping you just bunging it back together as 1 right now?
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BikeNewbie wrote:

Frame is around 180.
Indicators - £20
Front and rear lights - £35
Levers - £10
Clocks - (push bike) £10
Chain and sprockets - £80?

That's pretty much it. Possibly fairings if I decide to do it original.

Done on the real cheap, that's likely spending at least £250.
Possible you might get a bit more money than that back from it ontop of what you might get for parts, but I doubt that much. But personally I'd put the time and effort in to selling parts separately. There's going to be a fair bit of work swapping the frame over, the likelihood you'll find other problems and the like. Less time spent and more money in your back pocket - then if you want a project, work out the one you want.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I could I'd just be rolling down the road tilting to one side haha.

Yeah I understand. Just it's there with a few parts ordered and patience I'd have it back on the road in my own time.

My friend is also going to help me with it all so that will make it easier. Like I said not interested in profit. Just making my money back. That's all I want.

I could sell it all for £300 parts. But I've lost so much I can't do that.

Regarding the fairings if I get them I guess I'll put it back to original.

Maybe something for show and tell.

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PostPosted: 20:15 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: Original or Street fighter? Reply with quote

Taxed and tested naked F model sold for £600:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/kawasaki-zx6r-streetfighter-/171109387426

Add in mot and tax and £300 + £250 parts and you're talking breaking even compared to just selling (and yours won't have the wide bars, bags or as good lights - and those lights aren't good, I'd budgeted about £25, so second hand enduro style lights that are one step above a tea light with a mirror behind it.)

£731 for one with fairings and tax and test.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290937385344

If you've got too much money and fancy burning some while working on a bike; go for it.

Otherwise, accept that what you've got isn't worth much.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my engine is just ticking over on 22k. That's nearly 40k.

I don't want to streetfighter. It will look ugly whatever is done with it.

I don't have cash to burn on this no. But If I tidy it up with said parts. I can make my money back I believe.

You pulling ads of ebay does not convince me I'm wrong. You could do that with any scenario it does not mean its true.

Just wanted some advice. You have given me some. Fair enough, but just difficult to basically bin it all.

I do not want to list every part. I'm sure of that.

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PostPosted: 20:23 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it rideable, chuck on ebay as project.

Only way really imo. I've sold some shit in my time too Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, I guess so. But why when I can fix it up myself?

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PostPosted: 20:32 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me pulling listings off ebay shows what people are paying for bikes. It's the only way to really judge how much people are actually paying.

I doubt the miles will make a big difference to people buying pre-crashed bikes with engine numbers that don't match.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 13 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all being legal makes a big difference. No dodgy business.

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