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PostPosted: 06:39 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Carrier bags cost 5p each from 2015 Reply with quote

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420464/Shoppers-charged-5p-plastic-bag-Victory-Mail-campaign-stores-ordered-act.html
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The government in Scotland has also announced that it will introduce a 5p charge next year.
Under the plans, all single-use plastic bags will cost 5p in supermarkets and department stores in England from 2015.


Interesting how they believe they have helped the country, just charging more for rubbish and having to pay to be a walking advertisement.

Most probably a non story on here. Not sure why they don't make a better bio degradable bag instead.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They used to make biodegradable bags. It was out of this wonderous modern hi tech material called paper. You could do all sorts of clever things with it too, like use it to start a proper fire or write darts scores on it. If you did the former the enviro-carbon police in hi viz suits would be out in force, and the latter now has some Android app to do it (obviously not for iphone, since Apple users would not be seen playing darts if they even know what a dart looks like).
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a lot of people this won't make a jot of difference. The only time I would use a lot of bags would be on the weekly food shop and I now take my own bags anyway.

The only issue that bugs me, if it is like the Welsh system you get charged at a maccy d's drive through just because your food is in one of those paper bags!
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

At supermarkets we use our own, but if you go in a High Street butcher or baker you often get a thin bag to carry 3 or things together - would they be included?

Although I'm as much against bags for the sake of it as anyone it is a bit of a joke when almost everything else in the supermarket comes wrapped in plastic or cardboard anyway.

Is there even a couple of grams of plastic in a thin carrier, and I expect it's made of at least part recycled stuff too.
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if my 5p carrier bag becomes faulty I will be wanting my money back, also I will be leaving my packaging at the store so to reduce the number of bags needed.
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fear not, the vastly greater amount of unnecessary packaging around the products themselves will still come included in the price.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
At supermarkets we use our own, but if you go in a High Street butcher or baker you often get a thin bag to carry 3 or things together - would they be included?

Although I'm as much against bags for the sake of it as anyone it is a bit of a joke when almost everything else in the supermarket comes wrapped in plastic or cardboard anyway.

Is there even a couple of grams of plastic in a thin carrier, and I expect it's made of at least part recycled stuff too.


Only big stores so guess the high street is unaffected.

Glad it's coming in tbh, will finally make me use reusable ones.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

God you Brits love a trivial moan don't you...!?

Average 21 cents here for a bag. And on top of that - we lose out if we don't take all our bottles back to where we bought them, etc etc.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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God you Brits love a trivial moan don't you...!?

True, but then we also don't accept Nazi gold and artworks in our shops either, so let's call that a wash.
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
At supermarkets we use our own, but if you go in a High Street butcher or baker you often get a thin bag to carry 3 or things together - would they be included?


They are here in Wales.

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PostPosted: 08:32 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any way I'm not sure if I want a "Bag for Life" after getting divorced from the last one I'm not sure I could commit again.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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True, but then we also don't accept Nazi gold and artworks in our shops either, so let's call that a wash.


You're confusing Austria with Swizzer Land, Roger.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dan_flash wrote:
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True, but then we also don't accept Nazi gold and artworks in our shops either, so let's call that a wash.

You're confusing Austria with Swizzer Land, Roger.

My grandads got torpedoed three times between them so that we don't have to make trivial faux-distinctions like that.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if I hang out outside supermarkets and sell my own carrier bags for 3p?

Or, even better, just give them away? I'm not allowed? Does that extend to me giving a bag to my friend within my home? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

One supermarket loves to claim "all profits from sales of bags goes to the baby jesus"

It irks me, because it says "profit" not "revenue". So they are claiming the highground, but are pocketing the overheads first and who knows how they've calculated those. So the consumer is paying for something that used to come out of the supermarkets end.

Not saying we shouldn't, nor that we didn't pay for it ultimately anyway. It's just their choice of words to enable them to look the nuts when they are nuts with a c.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

My grandads got torpedoed three times between them so that we don't have to make trivial faux-distinctions like that.


My Grandad died in one of the concentration camps. He fell out of one of the turrets. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 14 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nowadays they'd probably have the guards fitted with some sort of safety harness so such accidents could be a thing of the past.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 15 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
One supermarket loves to claim "all profits from sales of bags goes to the baby jesus"

It irks me, because it says "profit" not "revenue". So they are claiming the highground, but are pocketing the overheads first and who knows how they've calculated those. So the consumer is paying for something that used to come out of the supermarkets end.

Not saying we shouldn't, nor that we didn't pay for it ultimately anyway. It's just their choice of words to enable them to look the nuts when they are nuts with a c.


That's what I was wondering. If the supermarkets get the cash, they must love it that the government are 'forcing' them to charge. Or do the government get it as a 'green tax' or do the ickle kittens get it as a charity scam.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 15 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All my carrier bags get reused as rubbish bags in the garage.
I'm still going to need rubbish bags so net saving of plastic bags is nil, while the cost to me increases. Sounds like balls.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 15 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it makes people think twice before having one for the tiniest amount of shopping then it's worthwhile. People just say yes automatically without thinking.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 15 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
All my carrier bags get reused as rubbish bags in the garage.
I'm still going to need rubbish bags so net saving of plastic bags is nil, while the cost to me increases. Sounds like balls.


+1 to using em as rubbish bags.

Just means I'll be buying more black bags. As usual with green agenda and anything with "Eco" in the title it's a pile of bollocks
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 15 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
jnw010 wrote:
All my carrier bags get reused as rubbish bags in the garage.
I'm still going to need rubbish bags so net saving of plastic bags is nil, while the cost to me increases. Sounds like balls.


+1 to using em as rubbish bags.

Just means I'll be buying more black bags. As usual with green agenda and anything with "Eco" in the title it's a pile of bollocks


+2 I've only ever used them as rubbish bags, never bought rubbish sacks. Oh well, in protest I have a year or two to take one bag per item to stock up Laughing

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If it makes people think twice before having one for the tiniest amount of shopping then it's worthwhile. People just say yes automatically without thinking.


NO. It's pointless as others have already explained. It only works if they cut all of the non-biodegradable non-recyclable packaging since plastic bags are the minority of the problem. Let's also bear in mind that recycling at the processing end is a joke in most places. I'm all for reusing materials, it's common sense, but they're not doing that, they're just pandering to a Green agenda. I'm even in favour of Green energy where it makes sense, but they don't do it where it makes sense, they do it where Caroline Lucas would like it, and she is thick as two short ones.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonB wrote:
For a lot of people this won't make a jot of difference. The only time I would use a lot of bags would be on the weekly food shop and I now take my own bags anyway.

The only issue that bugs me, if it is like the Welsh system you get charged at a maccy d's drive through just because your food is in one of those paper bags!


Tell the skany lot to keep the bag and pass each item in seperatly.

I think retailers a should be hit hard for 'over' packaging...
cucumber ins vacume wrap and plastic Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
...Glad it's coming in tbh, will finally make me use reusable ones.

We make reuse of the free carrier bags for our rubbish and recycling.

That's right, our council insists on any thing that can't be squashed into the recycling boxes to be in clear plastic bags. That'd be non-recyclable plastic bags then with stuff for recycling in them Rolling Eyes

Having said that I think it's just a scam to meet 'government targets' so they get money from the government. I'm waiting to be convinced they don't just ship it out to landfill in Africa to be sorted over by the local population.

Marks and Spencer have been charging for years for carrier bags to help their profits the environment.

Anyhow, bag on topic. Must try and get into the habit of keeping bags in the car for shopping trips. If I'm on the bike I'll just squeeze shopping in the panniers.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKMAX used to charge and dont any more Confused
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