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Dave70
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

What a b'stard!

Eventually got around to sitting my theory last week and although I actually passed, I was convinced I had massively ballsed it up on the hazard perception part, even though I was pretty confident on the theory side (got 49/50 as it turned out). After the final clip, I just sat back in the chair and thought "oh well, I screwed that up". Got outside the test centre and reluctantly opened up the envelope, only to find out I had passed both parts. Very Happy

Having only done a little practice on the AA online mock exam, the one over here was quite a bit different. Not only by way of the clips shown but, you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

Anyway, that's the hard bit over with. Got a refresher lesson Monday and my instructor said he'll give me the form afterwards for my practical (he's taken me through the practical test twice and told me I would have passed if it was the actual exam, so fingers crossed that I'll be able to get 4 points for speeding in style soon , rather than on a 125 or even just hit the throttle and pull a wheelie while going pass the po po holding the speed gun while giving the finger and screaming catch me sucker Laughing

Disclaimer: That last part was a joke. I can't do wheelies yet Sad
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

It's easy and IMO not something you can prepare for. If you follow the instructions and aren't a moron you should pass.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
It's easy and IMO not something you can prepare for. If you follow the instructions and aren't a moron you should pass.

Yeah...but somedays I can be a moron. Must have been having a day off that day. Neutral
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit of a con if you already hold a licence. I have had a car driving licence and have been driving a car for many years. A few years ago I decided to go for my bike test. I had to sit a perception test that I thankfully passed, but...what would have happened had I failed?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracks wrote:
It's a bit of a con if you already hold a licence. I have had a car driving licence and have been driving a car for many years. A few years ago I decided to go for my bike test. I had to sit a perception test that I thankfully passed, but...what would have happened had I failed?
Not really, it's to make sure you know the latest stuff. A little practice on one of the theory test DVDs or even the apps you can get for your phone will get you through. If you had failed you would have failed and had to take it again Razz
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open an envelope? They printed mine out and just said I passed, gave me the paper and said how many I got right...
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Open an envelope? They printed mine out and just said I passed, gave me the paper and said how many I got right...
Apparently they're not allowed to discuss your results. Both my car and bike theories were handed to me in an envelope which I opened while walking down the stairs out of the building.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Open an envelope? They printed mine out and just said I passed, gave me the paper and said how many I got right...

Ahh....but this is the Isle of Man we're talking about. They like envelopes a lot over here, especially big brown ones bursting at the seems.....or perhaps that's just the masons, er sorry, I meant MHK's. Thinking
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

MC wrote:

Is that new? Can't remember a limit when I did my car theory test, and that was only a little over a year ago. Got my bike theory next week, think I'll be alright on the multiple choice (scored the same as you last time), but scraped through the hazard perception with the minimum pass mark Shocked

Not sure tbh but, it wasn't the case on the mock test I found online, it came as a bit of a surprise to me also. I was of the understanding that you could click a lot more, just not too rapidly. This five clicks only rule made me hesitate too much imo, as I was frightened to use up my clicks.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

MC wrote:
Dave70 wrote:
Not only by way of the clips shown but, you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

Is that new? Can't remember a limit when I did my car theory test, and that was only a little over a year ago. Got my bike theory next week, think I'll be alright on the multiple choice (scored the same as you last time), but scraped through the hazard perception with the minimum pass mark Shocked
When I took my bike theory I guess a year and a half ago now there wasn't a 5 click limit, you just couldn't go mental else it'd give you 0 for the clip. There's only one hazard for each clip anyway (I think there are 2 clips with 2 hazards).

If you spot it and click too soon you get 0 which is annoying. Apparently a lot of people who have been driving for a few years, or are an advanced driver struggle as you can see the hazard and click before it's scored so you need to derp down and act like a new driver when you do it.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

Dave70 wrote:
you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

You sure about this cos there appears to be no mention of this on Google or on the DSA website?
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Dave70 wrote:
you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

You sure about this cos there appears to be no mention of this on Google or on the DSA website?


Maybe they're getting confused between the clicks you're allowed and the points.

Each click has a few second window where you're supposed to click. If you spot the hazard at the right time you get 5, a little later and you get 4 and so on.

Scroll down a bit on this page and it gives an example: https://www.theorytestadvice.co.uk/hazard-perception-test/about-the-hazard-perception-test.php

As far as the clicking limit goes, I've only ever been told that it'll give you a score of 0 if it detects clicks with patterns or spam basically so if you're clicking when you think there's a hazard, even if that's 5+ times then you'll be absolutely fine.

If anyone reading this is about to take their theory then I highly recommend the "Driving Test Success All Tests" DVD which can be had for £7 on Amazon, it explains how everything works perfectly in regards to the hazard perception as well and at the end of a mock test will show you where you clicked and where you should have clicked.

I used the 2009 version of the above DVD for car and bought the 2012 back when I took my bike theory. Well worth it. They include bike theory, just make sure you select bike when setting up.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Dave70 wrote:
you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

You sure about this cos there appears to be no mention of this on Google or on the DSA website?

We were definately told this was the case. I even questioned it specifically, after we were given this information, when the lady asked if we have any questions before starting.

Maybe it's a Manx thing. Would be interesting to hear from anyone in the UK who's done their test recently.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Hazard Awareness Test. Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Dave70 wrote:
you only had five attempts of clicking per clip and I managed to totally miss one of the hazards Shocked

You sure about this cos there appears to be no mention of this on Google or on the DSA website?


yep i got nil points for over clicking - i did click about 6 times in a clip though
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig321 wrote:
If you had failed you would have failed and had to take it again Razz



.....and not been able to drive home? After all a fail is a fail....isn't it?
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 03 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you fail the motorcycle theory test then you're still legal to ride home on L plates or to drive home if you've got a full car license.

It says on the DSA site about over clicking and how you'll get nil points. It also says that the most you can score for each developing hazard is 5 points, I presume that where the confusion about only being allowed to click 5 times has come from.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 04 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
If you fail the motorcycle theory test then you're still legal to ride home on L plates or to drive home if you've got a full car license.

It says on the DSA site about over clicking and how you'll get nil points. It also says that the most you can score for each developing hazard is 5 points, I presume that where the confusion about only being allowed to click 5 times has come from.

I tried clicking a sixth time and one clip and it didn't register. So they've either changed it or it's an Isle of Man thing, as the practical test is very different to the UK one.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That test is a bit of a sham, really.Some of the hazards don't develop until later and you never know how many are correct or where you went wrong. Even thought they warn against it I reckon some people score highly if they smother each clip with five or six random clicks!
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 17 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a game, play it as such. Don't treat it as anything remotely connected to reality.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
Doing my bike theory I was over thinking thanks to the stuff I've read on here. I was clicking for the hazard, then thinking maybe that was too early and clicking again, then thinking well which click will the developing hazard score from (the first or second)? I passed with 54, still pretty low, but better than the 45 I scraped through on my car one. Oh one of the clips I remembered from my car theory Very Happy


I think I passed with 49 but I've not met anyone ( and I asked quite a few) who passed in the high 60s. It really is a pile of cack yet a necessary hoop we jump through.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 18 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the Hazard perception test pretty easy, more so then doing the questions in the other test its self. I know a few people at work who have panicked over the Hazard part. Both my bike & car I got 58 out of 75 - Yet on the questions I got 46/50 on the bike & 43/50 on the car Confused
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my theory test today in sunny Slough. There was no mention of a maximum number of clicks, in fact on the introduction video it showed someone clicking about 10 times in 30 seconds! I'm not sure how the cheat detection works but I think you would need to click a lot for it to accuse you of cheating. Sounds like there are different rules outside of England.

In one of my clips I'm sure there must've been about 5 hazards. It was in a little village with cars popping out of every nook. It seems a little unfair that they preselect only one or two to score you on. I scored a whopping 52 in the end but I was a bit worried because when I took my car theory test about 10 years ago it was just before they increased the pass mark and had I taken the test a week later I would've failed it!
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