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koolio
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Using GPS on a motorcycle? Reply with quote

I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and I find it too big for me, I prefer my old Samsung U100 which is much lighter and easier to use imo and is not a smart phone (so has predictive text etc. etc.)

Having said that there is one reason I haven't sold it yet and that is it's potential to be used as a GPS on my bike which I haven't been able to try yet (still dismantled in the garage).

So how many of you use your phones as a GPS on a bike, and is it really necessary?

My fold up map and London biker maps are smaller and fit easier in my pocket compared to my Samsung U100...
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a 60 quid Chinese car sat nav, with a modified mount used in conjunction with a chrome p-clamp on the handlebars.

Power is supplied via an adapted fag charger. Pins removed from charger and replaced by wires and crimp terminals to battery. An inline fuse and isolator toggle switch completes it.

USB lead is tie-wrapped to frame spine under tank and the free length at the end just gets granny-knotted onto something when the sat nav is not on its bracket.
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koolio
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea but do you actually need to use it?
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

koolio wrote:
Yea but do you actually need to use it?


If I'm on my own and going somewhere new, why would I not use it?

I would never, ever use a phone as a sat nav.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use email rather than writing on wax tablets and sending them by pony express.

Likewise I use GPS rather than folded up slices of dead tree.

Heck, I used a satnav app on my phablet today so that I knew when to get off the bus.

Find a solution for your bike and get on with it. You don't really get Man Points for doing it the old fashioned way.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use my S4 as a sat-nav, mainly abroad, screens bright enough to be seen clearly through glare and sun light.
Connects to my headset for audio instructions if I don't want to look at it.

What's not to like really....

I use an ultimate-mobiles mount and holder.

Cigarette socket with USB charger if needed.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used phones as sat navs for journeys totalling over 15,000 miles around Europe. All of them worked great.

I wouldn't bother with the bulk and faff of a dedicated unnit unless I was doing extensive off road routes.

Modern sat navs are pretty much the same as phones these days anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I have using phones as sat nav is you don't get a lot of customisation of the route, at least not with the software I've used. Usually you can't import routes like on dedicated units.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never needed it to be honest. I just read road signs to get where in going, look on google maps before I leave so I know roughly where to go in a new town etc. has always worked so far touch wood

If its real complicated I wrote a few road names down and tape them to the tank Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
Never needed it to be honest. I just read road signs to get where in going, look on google maps before I leave so I know roughly where to go in a new town etc. has always worked so far touch wood

If its real complicated I wrote a few road names down and tape them to the tank Thumbs Up


Used mine as a sat nav/speedo when I first got this bike and it had no speedo of its own. Now I have a tablet in the tank bag for long rides - battery lasts longer.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
Never needed it to be honest. I just read road signs to get where in going, look on google maps before I leave so I know roughly where to go in a new town etc. has always worked so far touch wood


If you're only trying to get somewhere, and it's not a city with a maze of one-way streets and junctions with restricted turns (like London), a GPS is overkill.

A GPS is a big benefit if you're trying to ride a particular route, though, especially if you're planning it on the fly. And that's something a phone isn't usually very good for either.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Download a program called ITN Converter it will save routes in loads of different formats. For you S3 take a look at Sygic
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a SGS2 as satnav (using CoPilot). But audio instruction only, don't use the screen.
Most of the time it works well and you don't have to take your eye off the road.

I used to write the route notes and stick them to tank bag. But it was limiting to the complexity of the route, took a long time and meant I kept not looking at where I was going.

Heard good things about Sygic too.

I use google maps on PC to plan route, save as .KML, use RouteConverter to change it to .TRP and import to the phone for use with CoPilot.

Charge phone on-route with fag socket + usb adapter.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I use email rather than writing on wax tablets and sending them by pony express.

Likewise I use GPS rather than folded up slices of dead tree.

Heck, I used a satnav app on my phablet today so that I knew when to get off the bus.

Find a solution for your bike and get on with it. You don't really get Man Points for doing it the old fashioned way.


Of course no man points, but there is such a thing as the newer is not necessarily better, it suggests you are not happy with what you previously had, I prefer to keep things simple.

I got my new Samsung S3 smart phone free, it has done nothing for me than complicate things. It is big bulky and has a lot more technology that I simply don't need, nothing my laptop doesn't do better. My old phone was sleek and I couldn't even feel it in my pocket, I now feel like I'm carrying a delicate brick.

And in many cases I prefer dead tree than many electronic applications.

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If you're only trying to get somewhere, and it's not a city with a maze of one-way streets and junctions with restricted turns (like London), a GPS is overkill.

A GPS is a big benefit if you're trying to ride a particular route, though, especially if you're planning it on the fly. And that's something a phone isn't usually very good for either.


Well I was thinking of a bluetooth audio system with street names program such as tom tom (I don't want/need visual) specifically for London. I've lived in London most of my life but can still barely name even major streets.

Ideally something that can play music into a bluetooth earphone as well as give me GPS instructions, can be in my backpack doesn't need to be waterproof or mounted..
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you manage to save a Google file ?
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an ultimate addons s3 case and mount and use that, with headphones if needed and it's very good. Got me all the way to the middle of nowhere in Scotland not long ago so Thumbs Up from me. Only problem is the battery life is dire so I'd invest in wiring it up to charge on the go.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
How do you manage to save a Google file ?


Well never heard of a google file yet..

But I do know the following...

.exe. .bat .doc .docx .dmg .zip .avi .mp3 .mp4 .dll .psd. pdf .jpg .png and many many more Very Happy

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I've got an ultimate addons s3 case and mount and use that, with headphones if needed and it's very good. Got me all the way to the middle of nowhere in Scotland not long ago so Thumbs Up from me. Only problem is the battery life is dire so I'd invest in wiring it up to charge on the go.


Yea I think that's what I'm trying to get at. As I'm no longer wanting to use it as a phone, is it worth keeping it just as a GPS/radio player or would it be better to sell it and get something more dedicated?
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
How do you manage to save a Google file ?


Create map using google maps.
Click "Save to maps" down the bottom.
Choose "Create new map" from the dropdown box.
Click "Save".
Marvell as your map visually gets all messed up.
Click back button on your browser.
Click "Save to maps" down the bottom.
This time, don't create a new map, just leave the default selection (which will be the new map you created last time).
Click "Save"
Map is now saved, click the newly created link at the top of the page called "View Map"
There is now a link to KML. Click to download the KML file.

Some of the above is clearly a workaround, no idea why, it works for me.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 05 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
I use mine mainly for the speed camera alerts, probably saved my license a few times.


Which phone and program are you using?
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the S4 and use it as a satnav at times. I paid something like 13 squids on Ebay and got a waterproof mount for the phone. Its big enough to fit the phone in and the external battery I have and has some rubber slices that pad the free space out.
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a car tomtom which I use in a cheap but very good bar mounted case.
No sound but im not too bothered.
If im going for a wander I don't use it but if I have to be somewhere for a particular reason and I'm not too confident of a hassle free journey, I'll use it.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally try and look at and remember the route. I find that if I use a GPS I don't really learn the route or joining roads so easily.

The exception is in the event I need to get somewhere complicated only once, then I'll make do with a phone and headphones.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
Never needed it to be honest. I just read road signs to get where in going, look on google maps before I leave so I know roughly where to go in a new town etc. has always worked so far touch wood

If its real complicated I wrote a few road names down and tape them to the tank Thumbs Up


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