ATOS scum.

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

These vermin get commision for everyone they sign on as being fit for work, regardless of a fully qualified doctor having stated the person is unfit for work.

My mate is a basket-case and has been repeatedly signed off as being unfit for work and a proper liability to boot. This after over two decades of working his nuts off and paying shedloads of tax. But the ATOS maggot, not a doctor, asks a bunch of questions, sends the document off to a doctor who then says "he's fit for work".

So what we need is some basket case who's been declared fit by the ATOS criminals to accidentally injure or kill somebody at work as a result of being ill, on prescription drugs or whatever, and then ATOS can be sued into the middle of the next century for being 100% liable. Corporate manslaughter charges would be legit too.

How are these sub-human filth even fucking legal?! Utterly beyond the pale. A fraudulent, criminal, conflict-of-interest tory vermin company who's CEO soundly deserves to die an agonising death due to cancer (but not be allowed to stop work and claim benefits).
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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

You know the entire system is rotten to the core when eton filth like cameron and osbourne, who have never done a day's real work in their lives, much less worked a real job, can become career politicians and get into top positions of power. And then viciously prey on millions of the poor and create utter misery and despair.

They should be fucking executed. After a legal trial of course. Bring back the death penalty? Yes, for scum like that.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Who did he go to the appointment with or did he chance going on his own?

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

He went on his own.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Doh.

CAB and or nhs people will be able to sort it.

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

What the hell could the Citizen's Advice do to help him, other than say "appeal the decision"? Or the NHS? Confused

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chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

They did this to my dad too he has spondylosis and can't bend down to do his shoes up. She asked him to show how much movement he had and the bint wrote on the report. Full movement Rolling Eyes

Despite him not being able to lean forward more than about 20 degrees.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

CAB offices have mental health debt & benefits caseworker(s) who'll be able to help.

NHS; the doctor(s) who've signed him off could help. The NHS mental health services that I presume he sees, take your pick from the consultant, CPN/care coordinator, or support worker.

There should be no need for him to appeal the decision, the above people can do all that for him and take care of ATOS so they leave him alone.

It's all very simple, there is lots of help available.

oldpink · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Karma :

just another tactic by the government attacking the weak & ill because they are a soft target
a friend of mine in London with several medical issues inc Liver transplant and Hep B/C (got Hep due to infected blood transplant years ago)
and at 60 year old, with several doctor & consultant letters about his conditions
was deemed fit for work and his housing benefit stopped before his doctors stepped in and
told ATOS he was NOT fit to work, then weeks of stress while his benefits were sorted out and get his rent arrears paid off
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LustyLew · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Karma :

It could be a good system. But as with everything run by government that's outsourced, it isn't.

Unless you've got a few limbs missing, most people take one look and assume you're fit for work. People get tarred with the same brush because there are people milking the system.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Above post is nobcat free, worksafe, and it's got no other hidden surprises. Razz

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

But Hetz isn't a 16 year old girl, he's a big bloke with violent delusions and a criminal reco- ohhhh. Thinking

On topic, ATOS can indeed burn in a lake of hellfire.

A relative of mine got stung with this, they put her down as fully fit even in the face of her clear medical records and the obvious fact that she can barely breathe. Apparently managing to show up for the evaluation was all the evidence they needed. But of course not showing up would have got her DLA stopped by default. Brick Wall

Fortunately both her GP and specialist went off the rails at them for it. One of her health workers blabbed that they reject almost everyone at the first go and you're expected to appeal two or three times depending on how their targets are that month.

It's essentially euthanasia by spreadsheet, executing the most vulnerable and meek by an ISO accredited procedure.
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Nick 50 · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2011 Karma :

If it is of help, I have a copy of the ATOS contract signed with the government which details procedures/clauses need to follow.
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

Can we click on that Ste?
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Yes, it's a copy of the ATOS contact.

Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

Thanks mate, I do like to make sure. once bit twice shy and all that Mr. Green

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raak · Spanner Monkey Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Karma :

well a friend had some issues and was refused, so i read up a bit and put a post up about it..just for clarity, you understand.. Wink

it's long and a bit old, but does highlight a few issues

" for those like myself unfamiliar with A-TOSS and the processes, whats all the fuss about... ?)

so is it just the whining layabouts who are up in arms then... ?

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Well, what can one expect when the sociopaths running the shithouse put sociopaths in charge on private contracts.

Blood needs to be running in the streets. But only after legal court proceedings and a change in the law to make it legal to take the scum running ATOS out around the back to be gutted with blunt knives. Sub-human degenerate filth that they are.

But hey, we're all in it together! Says Dave, with his £160,000 salary and the millions left to him by his tax-cheating scumbag father.
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alexknight200... · Crazy Courier Joined: 05 May 2012 Karma :

ATOS is truely wicked in the way it conducts itself and the criteria and formulas they have wangled to ensure that anyone except the limbless will be deemed fit for work.

ATOS and its process is one of the tragedies of the 21st century.

The money wasted in appeals and not being honest is wicked.
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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

My sister has ME. After a long battle with the ATOS scum they sent yet another of their 'doctors' to interview her at home. He was there for 20 minutes and did nothing but ask questions. When she was later able to get his report he'd put himself down as having been there for over an hour and that he'd given her a battery of physical checks. Fortunately she'd secretly recorded the entire affair. But when it came to the next tribunal they ruled her recording couldn't be admitted as evidence as it was gained covertly.

She finally got her full DLA back but only by going to the press.

ATOS is nothing more than a gang of criminals defrauding the tax-payer out of millions.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

If genuine, attending anything to do with ATOS on your own is a really bad idea. There's lots of help available and it's much easier to prevent there from being an ATOS related fuck up than it is to have to fix the situation afterwards.