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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Hids & 125's? Reply with quote

Silly question but I don't suppose anyone knows if I could shoe horn these into an NSR as an upgrade for the lights?

https://www.eurocarparts.com/images/products/600x600/971775285.jpg

The current halogen's are pretty poor in but my main concerns about upgrading to Hid's are if the bike can produce enough extra power if they use more power than the stock 35w halogens and also if they will run any hotter which may lead to melting issues as with higher rated halogen bulbs?

Would beefing up the wiring loom also be a consideration?

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Best regards

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're swapping a 35w light bulb for a 35w HID youre pulling the same current off the battery and loom.

I would advise using projectors though as it gives a much better beam pattern
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
i have fitted hid's to both mitos & rs125, so i reckon you could fit the ballast etc on nsr.
found them better than standard bulbs,
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

I answer to your question, I wouldn't have thought many 125s have enough power to use a HID system. Are they listed as being sold for your bike?

HIDs produce more light for less power.

Infact, when aftermarket kits came out they were initially mostly 35w sets to replace 55w lights.

If it's 35w, it should be fine for the NSR.

If they wanted an extra 40w from the generator, they could easily manage it I'm sure. 40w = 0.05hp. So maybe a total of 0.1hp loss?

Incidentally the bulbs the OP linked to are very blue - I believe you don't get as much light for the same power towards that end of the spectrum. Also you'll be more likely to look like an emergency services vehicle.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

35w is 35w.
They can use more on startup apparently - but we're still talking significantly less than a starter would.

There's also space and cost considerations for bigger power generators.
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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my understanding, they are more efficient than halogen bulbs and thus produce more light for the same given power however the ballast boxes are used to increase the voltage quiet a lot. I was also under the impression that after switching on but before they ignite the ballasts draw quiet a lot of current to get the lights going which could cause issues with the wiring if its not up to it.
Have not been able to find a huge amount of info about getting HID's into an NSR but I do know that they don't take a H4 bulb standard (have heard suggestions of using an adapter if such a thing exists BA20d - H4).

Will have a gander on ebay.

Cheers

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 11 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On startup current, depending on the bike, you could just turn them on once the engine is turning over?

I generally have my lights turned off on the CB until setting off. Mostly due to an incident with running the battery down (left the ignition on in the garden).
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