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MeatHelmet
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Anyone gone from a CBR600F to a 636 Ninja? Reply with quote

Am contemplating replacing the troublesome CBR with something else and the ZX-6R Ninja keeps appearing in the searches.

The CBR is a 97 bike and the ninjas seem to be around the 2000-2002 mark.

I use the bike as my only mode of transport, so commuting (no motorway), weekend blasts, trips up and down the motorway to see parents/mates etc. basically, a daily bike.

I know that the Ninja is more of a focused bike than the CBR but just wondering if it would be a bad choice regarding how it would be used.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long is your commute?

Sounds perfect for what you described. See if you can get an 05-06 636, not much difference in price, but definitely the better machine.

Pretty solid reliable bikes.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only 4 miles each way, but I'm a lazy bastard Smile

I'm going to go look at one this week if I can make time to. See if it 'fits'.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pre B1H (2003) zx6r have quite a tame riding position, probably ideal for what you want.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Pre B1H (2003) zx6r have quite a tame riding position, probably ideal for what you want.


Yes absolutely. B1Hs are excellent though, more capable and quicker than an A1P with much better kit. Unfortunately they're stiffer and and have a racier riding position.

To be honest though, compare a B1H to a modern supersport and you have to wonder what progress has been made; for the money they are brilliant.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotted one in blackpool on ebay, looks very nice!

anyone local that might be passing by it??

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171137750063?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

looks tidy enough.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a 636, and going from a 600F to a B1H 636 you'll notice. Going from the CBR600F to the above, or an A1P you won't really.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I realise that it's not a 636.

Does look tasty though.

I'm not after a bike that's gonna be a huge difference to the CBR as I do like it, but I'm thinking of cutting my loses with this bike!
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MeatHelmet wrote:


I'm not after a bike that's gonna be a huge difference to the CBR as I do like it, but I'm thinking of cutting my loses with this bike!


Buy another CBR. Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki everytime. You won't notice much of a difference between them but you'll realise immediately that the Ninja is a much better bike Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 15:36 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2002 would be a 636 - same motor, but no FI in the older chassis.

A bit better bike, but not massively so, I'd say.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just get an FZR600r. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been on a b1h and own a c1h, both brilliant bikes for the money. I doubt youd notice the difference all that much to be honest some people say theyre more track focused but ive found mine comforable and confidence inspiring on road. I'm 5"11 and have used it for everything from touring and weekend fun to commuting 2 hours and 5 minutes.

Only downside is the extra 36cc i never use adds a bit o' tax Wink
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Been on a b1h and own a c1h, both brilliant bikes for the money. I doubt youd notice the difference all that much to be honest

People are discussing the difference between A1P and B1H? Much bigger difference there.

(Also, J1/J2, it seems.)
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Been on a b1h and own a c1h, both brilliant bikes for the money. I doubt youd notice the difference all that much to be honest some people say theyre more track focused but ive found mine comforable and confidence inspiring on road. I'm 5"11 and have used it for everything from touring and weekend fun to commuting 2 hours and 5 minutes.

Only downside is the extra 36cc i never use adds a bit o' tax Wink


Not been on a C1H but I have heard they're slight softer sprung and a bit more comfy.
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah id say it feels a bit more 'refined' than the b1h, but thats only going by 50 miles or so on one so maybe just teething problems adjusting to it Razz
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of the very first zx6r's, mine is a F1 model, seems like a reasonable bike to me, I don't use it much, below around 7k it's very tame and unexciting, use the box and the revs though it's a rocketship, handling is nice and predictable, squared off tyres though make it feel a bit weird. I would expect to pay around 800 to 1200 ponds for a reasonable one of that year. I paid a grand for mine last April , it had only done 22k and had a full FSH.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The F models are fairly equivalent to the CBR he has now.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J1/J2 (599cc) and A1P (636cc) are comfy and look like this. Still light and capable during trackdays.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/805/images/ZX600J_1-01.jpg

B1H (636cc) is more track focused and harsh on longer journeys...

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/809/images/600s-test-Bruntintho.jpg

If I wanted an all round bike with 600-700cc engine then I would probably pick A1P over B1H. If I wanted a bike for a track I would go for B1H.

All J1/J2/A1P/B1H will be quicker than CBR600F but not by much. If you want something quicker then probably GSXR750 will tick all your boxes.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maggot wrote:


If I wanted an all round bike with 600-700cc engine then I would probably pick C1h over B1H. If I wanted a bike for a track I would go for B1H.


edited for truth Thumbs Up

Though the c1h doesnt come close to how good the b1h looks, I also really enjoyed the flightyness of my old b1h, i miss that bike!
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats wrong with c1h looks Evil or Very Mad !
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Or just get an FZR600r. Laughing


You selling yours?
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacon wrote:
Maggot wrote:


If I wanted an all round bike with 600-700cc engine then I would probably pick C1h over B1H. If I wanted a bike for a track I would go for B1H.


edited for truth Thumbs Up

Though the c1h doesnt come close to how good the b1h looks, I also really enjoyed the flightyness of my old b1h, i miss that bike!


I said A1P over B1H only because those were the ones we discussed. A1P is still a good choice because it is probably much cheaper than B1H as it's less desired. C1H on the other hand is still quite expensive and I personally wouldn't fancy under-seat exhaust for touring.
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PostPosted: 06:00 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
Eddie Hitler wrote:
Or just get an FZR600r. Laughing


You selling yours?


Don't think I ever will, made me grin like a bastard yesterday riding home, which is rare seeing as I've had it more than 3 months Laughing . Took me to Silverstone and back with no troubles at all on sunday too. It's an old bike but for commuting and the odd blast it's great.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we're all discussing all models, and not being biased at all Rolling Eyes , the C6F is by far the best bike imho. Thumbs Up
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