What needs fixing

[TomReilly]

Hey guys

I'm quite new to biking, passed my CBT abut a month ago and got myself a Tmec Enduro 125, chinese version of the XR 125 by Honda.

Right well, its currently chained up in my shed because for one I spent my entire pay on it so can't afford petrol haha. And also its needs a good doing up before its mot passable, can a garage do the following things for me or do I gave to give them the parts?: new battery, 4 new indicators, new speedo, front back fixing, new clutch lever, wiring fixing with the back lights and back brake, the back one works but you have to press quite hard on it to engage it, would like it stiffened up.

I would try this myself but as I said I'm quite new to biking and working all the time so don't really have time to find out where to learn it
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[mudcow007]

all of them jobs are pretty straight forward matey boy

seriously

if you pay a garage to do it, they will basically bend you over an bum you

i reckon £100 would cover it?

also best way to learn is to do it your self

clocks

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[Minty]

A garage will do whatever you want if you give them enough £££ to do it.

I'd be looking to do at least all the basics and leave the harder stuff to them.

Battery? You should never be paying someone to do that. Indicators? Assuming wiring is ok to them, again another easy job.

Put a post in the local section and you may get a member to do it for some beer tokens.
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[P.addy]

They are all very simple jobs.

I would query how much you paid for a chinese bike missing all those bits initially. I bought an 11 plate chinese bike for £230 and it was all road legal bar a clutch lever...

[Rogerborg]

If you're a pov don't pay a garage to do any of that stuff. Their time doesn't come any cheaper just because your bike is cheap.

If you go in and say "Do X and Y," they'll do exactly that, and tough luck if you guessed wrong and the bike is still borked. Conversely if you say "Fix it mister" then you might as well just hand them your wallet.

First thing you do is describe things in terms of problems, not solutions, and diagnose them.

Definitely get yourself a cheap digitial multimeter, you can get them for under £5 delivered from eBay. Do not guess at electrical faults, you'll spend way more time and money on randomly replacing parts.

Just for starters, why do you need a new battery? Have you checked the electrolyte levels in it? Is it not charging? Has it been over-charged and cooked? Have you tried charging it up with a low amperage motorcycle charger?

Don't trust any bollocks the seller told you, he didn't have the bike long enough to figure out the problems.

Anyway, OP doesn't have a V5C or new keeper slip so can't VED it anyway, and is in Liverpool so it'll get nicked before it gets road legal.
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[mudcow007]

didnt realise the OP is in Livercool

drop me a pm if you need a hand, i will try an help if i can

[TomReilly]

Battery is completely dead, the instrument lights don't even come on like the neutral light.

When I get paid I could perhaps order the parts myself but I wouldn't be sure what ones so I would need a hand, say indicators I wouldn't have a clue, the right battery etc..
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[Rogerborg]

[TomReilly]

I know the indicators need replacing because they have tape on them and are missing plastic mounts

And I ran the battery out trying to start the bike with the electric start (wasn't starting) and I didn't know that drained the battery if you keep doing it
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[TomReilly]

[Vincent]

Just like any other rechargable battery - with a battery charger.If it's got little plugs on top, it'll be a lead acid one. If the body is see-through, have a look at the metal plates inside - do they have all white fuzzy stuff on?
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[Islander]

Buy or borrow a motorcycle battery charger. If you're buying one then an Optimate is a good choice.

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[TomReilly]

Awesome guys thanks for the help. Just on my way back from work now so I'll take the battery out and see what type it is.
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[TomReilly]

I found this beast
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Motorcycle riding can be really cozy. If you want to be a little closer to your passenger, brake a little quicker for the next stop.

[TomReilly]

I found this beast
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[Vincent]

Sorry....looks clapped out to me you can sometimes get used batteries cheap but it's a gamble that they're any good. I've bought a few off ebay, locally to save on post, about half turn out to be any good.
There are, cheap new ones, but quality can be fairly poor.

Don't throw money at the bike if it's not worth it. Stick some pics up and we'll be able to get an idea of general condition and wether it's worth putting right.
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[TomReilly]

I definitely want to put it right no doubt about it! My first bike so ill try get it looking as best as possible, she drives well, just could be done up
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Borrow a car, borrow some jump leads. Get it started.

Remove the jump leads.

run it for a while (at least 15 minutes).

Stop it.

Try and start it.

If it starts, the battery is fine.

If it won't, use the jump leads again.

If it starts, the battery is fucked.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

N.B. I take no responsibility for stupidity with jump leads. Find out how you are supposed to use them before you try my suggestion.

I've got better things to do than explain the most basic of principles.

Ask your Dad or something...
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[Rogerborg]

That was cranking your engine?

See that dark column at the right? That's a cell (nearly) full of electrolyte, the "acid" solution in your lead / acid battery.

All six of the cells should be like that. The others look dry, which means they've either evaporated off, or boiled off due to the regulator / rectifier not regulating the voltage and putting more than 14v across it.

You can try and recover it by popping the yellow caps off the top, filling each cell with distilled / deionised water up to the "upper level" mark, then putting a charger on it. I'd try some as well.

You'll want to find out why it got in that state, which means getting a multimeter and finding out how much voltage it being put across it when the engine is running. If it's over 14.5V or so then your regulator is hosed, and it will boil off (or explode) any new battery that you put in it.

Indicators are generic, just order anything off of eBay. What matters is matching the total wattage (per side) with what the flasher relay is expecting. Given the state of that battery, that might constitute the advanced class though.
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[stirlinggaz]

hi,
same as above really.....but ime batteries CAN be recovered & i have just done his to exactly same battery...spooky huh?
go buy a bottle of distilled water from halfrauds/petrol station, costs about £2.00 max for a litre.
using a very small funnel (easily made using empty pop bottle) or 50ml syringe (available from most chemists & very useful for bleeding brakes as well) fill all the compartments up to the middle of min/max lines.
leave it to settle for a bit THEN charge up with a good battery charger, specifically the type that recovers deeply discharged/sulphated batteries, costs a bit more than standard battery charger but its a one off purchase thats very useful & will last for years. (optimate 4 or similar)
after a good long charge your battery should be back to its best.(well almost)
cheers,
GAZ

ps : your likely to need a multi-meter at some point as well, to check voltage of battery once charged up & again when bike is being revved over something like 5000rpm, to check charging circuit. a cheap basic lcd type will suffice, costs around a tenner max.

[TomReilly]

Thanks for the help guys, when I get paid I will get all my bits in:)
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[cb1rocket]

How much did you buy bike for?
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[TomReilly]

£450
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