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mkw
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: AJS eco2-125 Reply with quote

I rode a bike yesterday for 1st time in almost 20 odd years when I done my CBT. done the cbt on a AJS eco2-125 which I was told had more or less the same engine as a ybr125.....Anyway the point of this post is I really liked it and I don't have much ambition to get a bigger bike its basically to commute to work and go to the gym and go for a little ride but nothing to taxing, 50-60 mph is plenty quick for what I need it for.....

Is it a reliable bike??? and is it worth £1300 brand new????....like I said fellas I don't care about speed, style, sell on potential etc etc.....
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a used YBR for around £800 - 1k, you'll make your money back and it won't fall apart.

Don't go chinese.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh I would do mate but any ybr within 60-100 miles of me your looking at average of £1500 for a bike having done 10k miles Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many AJS' are being sold with that mileage? and how much are the ones that have?

When you find the answer to these questions you will realise that the extra for a YBR makes both financial and common sense Smile
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more than half way convinced that the AJS Eco aka the Jianshe JS125 is a Yamaha-Jianshe YBR 125 with a carb.

However, Paddy has nailed it. If you spend £1300 on one (plus the OTR charges), then it'll depreciate by good whack the moment you turn the key. A YBR at that price will hold its value.

If you really want a new bike though, then the AJS Eco isn't too bad a choice. Just check that you can get insurance on it easily, a bike that starts out as hard to insure will remain hard to insure and hard to sell on.
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mkw
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

so its not spectacular, doesn't hold value but all in all is not a bad bike???

one of the positives for me is the dealer is just over a mile from my house so that's always got to be a bonus!!!!!
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mkw wrote:
so its not spectacular, doesn't hold value but all in all is not a bad bike???


I'd agree with that. But I'd even go as far as to say I prefer it to the YBR. I rode a YBR that was the same year as mine but with half the mileage. Fully expected it to be better, just wanted to see where the extra money went.
On the YBR, the clutch was heavier, the seat was less comfortable and the turning circle worse due to the large plastic fin things. The engine had a touch more midrange, but no more top end. The brakes were slightly better, although now I've changed my pads, I would think they were similar.

The AJS has started first time, every time. Ridden in all weathers, all year and never missed a beat. Over 2.5 years it's returned an average of 111MPG (280 miles before reserve) and spent most of the last 6 months at 8,000rpm covering 200-250 miles each weekend.

For the first 2 winters, it was outside 24/7. And here she is, around mid August, at 17,000km

https://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w559/pigeon35/130818%20-%20Dungeness/20130818_095539resized_zpsa26869c0.jpg

Or back in May, sans the Tank Bag.
https://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w559/pigeon35/130630%20-%20Cliffhanger%20Cafe%20-%20Highcliffe%20on%20Sea/20130630_161651resized_zps345bdd24.jpg


So the bad. Bolts and fasteners are not Jap quality. The original tyres are just about acceptable for 3,000 miles of summer riding, but not for winter. I'm running Metzeler ME22's for £31 each. Only last 5,000 miles but have loads of grip.
The gearing is a little short (benefits from a +1 front sprocket making 75mph downhill possible). The chain is made from pasta and stretches every 350 miles.
If your a fat git like me, the suspension struggles. Stiffer fork oil (and more of it) and a touch of rear pre-load gets it mostly pretty good.
It will halve in value in year 1. After 2 years, a mint one will be lucky to get £600.
You have to keep on top of cleaning. Aim for every other week really.

Apart from it being bloody slow. It's a lot of fun Smile Throw it round some b-roads and it's brilliant. It's a straightforward design and very light.

I'm keeping mine for as long as it will run. If they did them with a 250cc engine, I'd buy another in an instant.

Of course, I may have just gotten lucky. There are plenty of Chinese horror stories. But you do find training schools using these bikes, as you found out.
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mkw
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Pigeon think that's made my mind up...cheers dude
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this also the same bike?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-JIANSHE-JS125-6A-BLACK-125cc-CRUISER-MOTORBIKE-LEARNER-LEGAL-/251183332603?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a7bb17cfb

Looks a fair bit cheaper than the AJS badged one.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 15 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's 99% the same bike. But I'm unsure if it's as straightforward to get it on the road. I think you have to do the registration, which might mean having to pick from a limited pool of insurers.

Rogerborg is your man when it comes to details and facts here.

Also, there is a chance that some parts are replaced by AJS. For example, my wheel bearings appear to be Koyo rather than Chinese. Also, my headlight bulb was Philips rather than generic.

I've also had very good help from AJS, very good customer service.

A year ago, I thought the same, that if I bought one of these again, I'd buy the Jianshe and save £400-500........ in fact, I probably would still buy the Jianshe, then promptly replace the wheel bearings, tyres, chain, bulbs, spark plug, battery and fork oil for about £250.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same factory, not necessarily the same production line or all the same components.

The Jianshe is £849 + £85 delivery + £55 registration + £17 VED + £10 plates. You'l need to get it insured on the VIN, which sharply limits your options, and you'll have ongoing issues finding it on the main insurance lists.

You might save a little up front, but it'll start to even out in the long run, and resale of the AJS brand is likely to be easier.
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