Can someone explain?

[finniee]

I know there is probs loads of threads about this but can someone please tell me why the hell do you need to be 24 before you can get your full licence for a motorbike.

At 17 : you can basically drive any car you wish thats inc some wee toss pot in daddys bmw that is just a danger to himself when behind the wheel of a car.

Say your average car weights a ton and your average bike weighs 600 lbs. They let some fuck nut with no brains out on the roads and all they do is speed and show off to their pals, cant exactly do that on a bike as you do something stupid you come off and god knows what could happen.

[duhawkz]

because bikes kill kittens </tread>
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[J.M.]

At 17 your 125 will probably accelerate just as quickly as all the cars that your friends can insure. At 19 it will whoop their arses.

The rules are stupid though. They should just let natural selection take care of stuff.
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[Tungtvann]

Government attempt at bringing down death stats. A higher % of bikers get killed than car drivers, therefore biking is more dangerous and needs more regulation.

[Bendy]

Because motorcyclists are fewer in number than car drivers and therefore nobody cares much about their opinions.

Wasn't there a whole 'raise the minimum driving age' thing in the press last week? It'll happen.

[nathan k]

People buy in to government propaganda that's why, the national populous considers speed equal to terrorism. It's been a slow process but the government has slowly turned us in to wombles scared of death constantly. As to why the governments of the EU feel this law is appropriate...I don't know.

My thoughts are it's either
(a) Motorcycles crashes are expensive to the government, particularly on motorways where death is quite likely, i.e. long shut down times.
(b) The government actually care about our safety...Which I HIGHLY doubt.
(c) Flaunting traffic laws inspires anarchy. At least it in plants a seed in many, realising the government can't do shit to you once you've outsmarted their game we call life.

[Ste]

[finniee]

Ahh I see. Suppose it does stop a 17 year old buying a 1000cc and wrecking it 100 yards down the road.

But when you have a young person in a 1.6 daddys/mums car and they dont care that much cos its not theirs. Kinda a wee bit like what you going to do bawheed.

[Mario_Kempes]

[finniee]

[MarJay]

Because of the EU and their incessant meddling.
Because motorcycles have the worst KSA (killed and seriously injured) statistics per mile than any other vehicle
Because the powers that be don't want young people getting into motorcycling, they want all the old bikers to die out so they can introduce automated cars that drive themselves, GPS speed limiting and other ridiculous notions.
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[Jonathan A]

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[Blau Zedong]

To be honest I wouldn't bother getting into biking these days. I have no interest in riding round on some gutless piece of shit while I turn 24. At 21 my daily transport was a GSXR750L and funnily enough I havn't died once. Or ever made an insurance claim.
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[iooi]

[Enduro Numpty]

I'm from the "good old days" when, if you passed your test at 17 and could afford it you could ride anything. It took me till I was 19 to get what was arguably one of the hottest bikes around then (Suzuki GS1000). There was no training requirement then and a lot of my generation either got seriously hurt or killed.

I would hate to be a young guy trying to get into bikes these days. It must be a complete nightmare. I don't know what the answer is, but all I know is that my generation is still getting killed. Seems that all the guys that wanted bikes in the seventies and eighties or had them for a short time have now got loads of money and think they are riding gods. Lack of experience and too much bike seems to put them high up on the list of statistics.

Young guys maybe paying more than their fair share for the mistakes of others?

[Cheeseybeaner]

[Hyaon]

How about, you let people from age of 18 do a proper course and fucking leave them to it. The stupid ones will die, the clever ones will learn.
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[stuartt]

At 38 I got a hayabusa ( my 1st ever sports bike ) it's purely down to lots of luck I'm still alive !

Although it's my 1st sports bike I do sometimes wonder if you should be allowed to by one with very little riding experience .

These days most of the time I drive it like a saint

I know for a fact I wouldn't be happy with my boy riding it without say 5 years experience riding different bikes.

It's one thing riding a bike that will do 80 - 100 ish mph flat out & something totally different riding a bike that will do almost 100 mph in just a few seconds in 1st gear .

[27cows]

Also one from the old days when things were relatively sane. Really, you're either the sort of person who is a danger to yourself and possibly others, or you're not. I know people older than me (mid-40s) who are reckless tits, and I know much younger riders who are clued up. Doesn't really relate to age. And you could very easily kill yourself on a 125 - speed/power doesn't really come into it.

My mate has a young lad who has just started riding and I couldn't believe the amount of shit you have to do these days. It's so complicated.

I do agree with some kind training before you can venture out on the road but it should be the same for car drivers. Beggars belief that anyone can get out there on the road without any prior training, even if with an instructor. Have had many near misses with learner drivers.
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[bikertomm]

It is a load of fucking wank in my eyes, I drove as soon as I was 17, and had a 125 at 18.

I'm perfectly capable of riding a hornet unrestricted by now.. but all the law sees is the statistics and thinks of the kittens. Waste of my enjoyment
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[ninja_butler]

I think it's a sensible-ish law. You can ride mid-sized, moderately powerful bikes at the age of 19 and then move on to whatever bike you like at age 21 (two years experience) or go "direct access" at 24, by which age people are a bit more mature and sensible.

I wouldn't change it, but I would like to see a similar law introduced for cars.