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jucebox
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Not another ''What bike should I get'' topic Reply with quote

Hi guys.

I finally decided to make a topic as I'm 100% convinced I'll own a bike by the beginning of spring. Hopefully with your help I'll not be making too many mistakes in this ''I wanna be a biker'' process.

First things first, I'm a foreigner waiting for my drivers license to get changed into an uk one (just sent it a couple of days before) and I'm planning to do the CBT asap.
Got a couple of questions here: How big is the bike that I'm allowed to drive just with the CBT (I have to mention I'm 25 and I have a B category license since 2007) and how soon can I apply for a full A license?




Now about the bike I'm looking for... I'm 5.7 and weight about 10 and a half stones so I'm looking for one that I could lift back up in worst case scenarios Smile. I don't really like the racing look type of bikes and I'm not really the chopper type either, so somewhere in between would be preferred. I've been looking on the internet and I must say I like the Honda CB250 RS , 250 Superdream or even the XL look( I must say I wouldn't mind an enduro at all).
I'm looking for something basic as I'm a complete newb with motorcycles, something that I can fiddle about with and start the learning process and quite reliable. I plan on doing Sheffield to London or to Wales trips as I have mates there, just to get some experience on two wheels. I wouldn't mind a 125 at the beginning either, but I think they are a lot dearer.
I don't plan to go on a 600 cc one from the start as I believe I will die on my first 5000 miles knowing my enthusiasm Very Happy

Budget would be at around 1000 quid max


Thank you guys for having a look over this topic, although you're probably bored to bits by this type of questions, and any help will be highly appreciated

Cheers,

Vlad
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PostPosted: 02:34 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the money you could look at things like Kawasaki er500 or cb500 as they would be good for the longer trips as well as day to day usage. The cb250 and XL are hard to find good ones as they are very old now....as for the super dream.....no don't do it! Far to big a bike for the power which means they get thrashed stupid and by now all will have problems. Not a fun bike to ride either but they are comfy I guess just not for long distance and also old. Enduro style would be like sitting on a plank for more than a 50 mile ride ie kle500 but can do it and fun for shorter trips. As for not getting a faster bike....well I guess that's up to your right hand to behave when needed Wink
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jucebox
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of like them old. The rat look works well for me, naked bikes mad max style Smile). The kawasaki looks too chunky, don't think I will look good on it (I'm a skinny lad). I'm saying 1000 quid for the right bike, I could do with a lot less for a first two wheeler Very Happy (I know I'll probably trash it)
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 250RS is ace but you'll never find one. And the ones you do will be sheds. As for the 250N - please. They were bad then and they're dire now. The CB500 is a better idea and a grand should get you something usable.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is £1000 your total budget or just bike with a seperate budget for security gear and insurance?
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the CBT you can ride up to 125cc. For bigger bikes you have to go for a full license.

CBT will set you back around £80
Full license will be around £500 to £700 depending on experience and course time.
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jucebox
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 19 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

1000 pounds for bike, helmet and maybe jacket.Was thinking of getting the rest step by step. would go a bit extra if it's the right bike like I said. I'll leave insurance out of it. At the moment I'm drooling over the 250 rs, I think it would be perfect for me, really like the classic look and square light. I wouldn't mind working on it to improve it; get to know how it works..I'm null when it comes to motors.

@freyuk - Are you saying that if I buy something bigger than 125 I won't be able to ride it without full license? (that would change the situation a bit..was planning to go for it in spring but wanted to buy the bike in the winter as I was told it might be cheaper)

I'm opened to any other classical look bikes
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jucebox wrote:
@freyuk - Are you saying that if I buy something bigger than 125 I won't be able to ride it without full license? (that would change the situation a bit..was planning to go for it in spring but wanted to buy the bike in the winter as I was told it might be cheaper)

I'm opened to any other classical look bikes


If you only have a CBT, you will only be able to ride up to 125cc and no more than 15bhp. This will then expire after 2 years so you need to pass your test before then or you will have to do the CBT again. Also it's probably worth noting that the CBT will likely be around £100-£110 rather than the £80 that has been mentioned before (maybe you can get them for £80 at some schools but I think the majority charge around £100).

This piece of advice is a cliche on here but I will say it anyway: get a cg/ybr or similar. Very cheap to run and reliable. From the sounds of it, I think you would like the look of the older CG's, they look similar-ish to the CB 250 RS.
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jucebox
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you montene0, I agree with what you say. Don't feel confident enough on going on a big motor, and I know about the cg and it's realiability. It looks awsome aswell.
I've also seen some nice cheap mz from 89. What do you guys think about them?
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