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And purple, and red, and blue, and yellow, and...
Back on topic, one of the things I'd like to do is learn another language or two.
So I suppose that's one of the things I could crack on with. Right now it seems a bit like the cost-benefit isn't worth it - I may well end up working outside of the UK, but I think I'd end up learning while in the country (because I won't know in advance, really).
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I had an awesome shiny watch once . Cost me like £90 and was awesome. Then it broke while I was in India, it had a warranty so I posted it back to the UK to deal with later. It never made it home... .
Now that I look back, I can totally understand the points Mr S-Coburg-G is making. A lot of people actually commented on my nice watch, but to the rather less well-off Indian folk I must have looked a real dick, totally exacerbating the 'West is best' attitude. Then again plenty of upper class Indians are exactly the same - shiny shiny nicey nicey. Who can we blame? Yeeeah the capitalists boooo! Or maybe it's human nature.
Now I can't bare to own anything more than the functional essentials. But I don't want to get a £5 Casio because I'll look too hipster. So I have no watch. I'm such a div .
Actually nah that's not entirely true. My phone is my watch. If I had no phone, I'd get a cheap watch. I guess the point is that I don't need the watch because I have a time-keeping device already, ergo I try to stick to just having the essentials.
I'd say I go for 'functional' rather then prestigious. Come to think of it, the nicest 'thing' I have is my my new laptop. And my ten year old, fuel-economical motorbike. Aside from that, I'm quite smug about how bare my level of ownership is really.
I know it's a fairly standard thing to say, but I'd rather spend my money on things that will help me grow permanently, rather than just give me a bit of a jolly in the short term. This year I took up Chinese and accidentally joined a Kung Fu class. Per year it's gonna cost me a maximum of £450, but after, say, three years of learning, it becomes a lifelong investment, and that to me is fucking awesome and priceless. |
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Lord Percy wrote: | I'd say I go for 'functional' rather then prestigious. |
Then you get into the bits when the expensive stuff is the best for the task at hand.
I've got a high-end(ish) bike pump, not for tart factor, but because when cycling out in the Portuguese desert miles from anywhere, I want to rely on the precision CNC-machined solid ally german bike pump, rather than a piece of chinese plastic shit for a fiver. That need for reliability is what drives the purchase of good gear. Same too with my solar panel, its more or less the best one of that class on the market. Not because I want to show off to people, but because for two months this summer, ALL my power needs (charge phone/gps, charge AAA's for headtorch/bike lights) came from that solar panel (due to being cycle touring, hence no access to AC power) and I needed something that wouldn't let me down.
You wouldn't attempt an Everest climb with some discount Hi-Gear kit you bought on sale at Go Outdoors, you go to a specialist mountaineering shop and pay through the nose for some top-notch kit because that is what the situation demands.
OTOH my phone is an ancient nokia 1100, because it ticks all the boxes I need from a phone: tough, long battery life, calls, texts, torch (surprisingly useful), cheap enough I don't cry when it dies/gets lost. |
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smegballs wrote: | OTOH my phone is an ancient nokia 1100, because it ticks all the boxes I need from a phone: tough, long battery life, calls, texts, torch (surprisingly useful), cheap enough I don't cry when it dies/gets lost. |
I really find the phone obsession odd. I don't get it.
As stated in the other thread, my phone cost fifty quid. It has a keyboard for text messaging because that's the secondary use case after calling.
I don't understand people that spend ridiculous sums of money on phones to the extent of having to really scrimp in other areas.
I have friends that I know struggle to pay rent/bills and yet have these ridiculous space age devices. What's more, they don't actually seem that enamoured with them. It's almost like some sort of habit that they do without thinking, 40 quid a month contract, job done.
That's one of the main reasons I think capitalism 'fails'. While you say the pursuit of wealth is #1, I only really see that amongst select groups. Many people are out there not really 'getting it' and as such they get shafted on a regular basis. Not only the poor, but those on middle incomes too.
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Another thing I guess is spending money to save money.
I've yet to use a hotel/hostel etc etc, I prefer to just find somewhere out of the way (usually a field) and just kip there. Spending money on gucchi bivvy bags and sleeping bags allows me to do this in relative comfort. However by now I've probably slept outside enough to easily recoup the costs of potential nights in hotels, plus I get to keep the gear.
Similarly investing in the tools to fix your own vehicles, while the initial outlay might be more than getting it done by a mechanic, it soon pays for itself if you have a lot of problems (as is often the case with old knackered bikes) not to mention you are learning a useful skill to boot.
I agree with derivative about money being the motivator for a lot of learning. I never set out to learn mechanics per se, it was the by-product of owning old shit bikes and not having enough cash for a mechanic. I never set out to learn about building a PC, I just wanted to play BFBC2 in the cheapest way possible: the effect of that was doing a lot of research and learning into pc hardware.
I'm a massive gear-whore and thus each of my purchases isn't guided by something as fickle as advertising. I'm the type of guy who spends hours upon hours researching something as simple as a flashlight. Reading loads of reviews, watching youtube vids etc etc. What battery tech is the best? Can the li-ion batteries be charged up from my solar panels in the field etc etc. What brand of LED is most reliable?  |
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Interestingly, a lot of the stuff you've listed there is just stuff that you like to think you want because it's been presented and upsold to you as the utmost requirement for the perfect life. Consumer Vision! |
I disagree.
Has society ever told me I should fly hanggliders?
No. I saw a red bull event on TV many many years ago and thought it looked really fun. I wish society had told me I wanted to ride dirt bikes/do track days. I left off doing both for some time, but found they were really enjoyable when I did do them.
And yes I threw the 'super yacht' thing in - but as per Derivative - I'd suggest more that it's because it would be 'awesome'. I already have a motorhome and enjoy that (including using it to provide various entertainment at the BCF BBQ) - a massive yacht is just a step or two up
As for people not spending their time helping others - this being the perfect communist society, that probably wouldn't be allowed - because you'd then be elevating the people you're helping above 'equal' .
I was listening to something on the radio last night which discussed charity - and how in reality a lot of people are doing it partly to reward themselves. Rather than, say, researching the best way your money/time could be possibly be used to a specific end.
As it goes in the past I've idly thought about a 'commune' where stuff was shared.
For instance, I have a chain saw, which I got to cut down a couple of trees at my Gran's house as it was the cheapest way to do it. I hardly ever use said tool and would happily lend it to others. I always have more vehicles than I can use at once and don't mind lending them.
So, why not formalise this with a group of friends.
Maybe you could say, buy a good bit of land together and build some houses on there so it's more convenient.
While I like cooking, I always liked the idea of having someone ready to cook me want I wanted when I wanted when I'm busy, or just don't have the ingredients to hand. People could take it in turns to do the cooking, while others did the jobs for the community they preferred - maybe gardening etc?
More efficient and nicer if people do the stuff they like, but save time by doing it for everyone - it takes a lot time for one person to cook ten meals than for ten people to cook one, even if they are different meals.
Of course, reasonably people who bring in more 'stuff' are going to be better rewarded, we expect. Someone that owns a £500k aeroplane is probably going to expect to get some decent reward for allowing others to use it - afterall, instead they could have probably bought all the cars and bikes owned by the rest of the collective and still had change left over.
Similarly, someone who's skills required a lot of work to acquire, such as a Vet, may well expect their 7 years at uni be rewarded more than a 17 year old who's washing dishes.
So we need some way to value goods and services provided.
Yes, sadly; I invented a typical capitalist society. Dang .
Computer games is a good item to add to my list - very rare I get time to play them these days (though did spend a bit too long on Trials Evo when it came out.) |
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Only read the first page but people would probably get quite bored and the thing they'd look forward to is having babies sooooo overpopulation...
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If I didn't need to spend my time acquiring just enough wealth to pay my rent, bills etc. then I would spend my time acquiring knowledge and passing that knowledge onto my kid/s. A bit like what I intend to do for the next year of maternity leave really, my rent & bills should be covered so I can concentrate on the little one when it's born, and hopefully be able to learn some new skills myself, if I have the time!
What sort of things would I do / learn? I'd definitely learn more about growing my own fruit and veg, maybe some more motorbike maintenance, delve deeper into the world of yoga and meditation, get a load more exercise, cook some awesome meals, practice a bit of photography, read all kinds of books, crochet, macrame, make clothes, and bring up a little free thinker with a vivid imagination! Basically a lot more of what I do in my spare time now. ____________________ What would you do in life, if you knew you could not fail?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 292 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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