Police trust...

[daemonoid]

The bbc have an article about police trust after 'plebgate' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24627319

There's a lovely little pie chart that says people's opinion of the police is unsurprisingly getting worse. What is surprising though is that some people now trust the police more!?! Who the hell are these people?
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[N cee thirty]

probably old granny may that hasn't had her teeth kicked in by some yobo for her pension money yet, or maybe just bbc fabrication.
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[fatpies]

It might be because a lot of people don't really dig that deep when looking at the news and are swayed by statistics* For instance on the face of it, no police officer has ever been prosecuted for killing a civilian.

Kind of like how the Chinese government is whiter than white because the Chinese government has prosecuted 0 top politicians in its 60 year existence.

BCF sometimes digs real deep into issues and we cross swords over them and cite sources. We disagree and even do something really weird and that is to change our minds about things.

A lot of people have a fixed view and even when presented with evidence against their belief (consider religion) will suffer cognitive dissonance for a while then revert back to their old view.





*The not digging deep on statistics for example is when the government lied about the budget deficit going down. Which is fiction. https://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/cameron-busted-on-debt-claims there were interviews about this lots of people simply too it as truth rather than looking deeper into it and finding out it was a lie.
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[Skudd]

I think it may be that compared to others the Police do stand up. I'm not saying that they are squeaky clean, but when you look at others who are supposed to be up right and are not, the Police as a body are ok.
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[Keir]

as its the media and the MPs that are highlighting these "facts" I choose to ignore them totally as they will be fixed to fit their own agenda.
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[Hetzer]

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[Joncrete Cungle]

I trust them less and less, find them to be more full of their own self importance and 99.8% of the time I am not the 'criminal' they are after. At work a warranted constable wished to speak to myself, some of the staff and have me search through the CCTV for him to assist him in his duties.

Did he

A - walk over and politely introduce himself, ask if I could help him and if he could speak to the staff and please could I search the CCTV for him?

B - march over and bark out a demand to be told my name and address in an aggressive manner then demand I give him the hard drive for the CCTV without even telling me who he is or what his business in being here is?

So while bully boy was stood there fuming I quickly rang the nick and got hold of a Sergeant and asked him very loudly if the force has a PC 4**8 as I had a man before me dressed as a police officer bearing the number 4**8. When he replied that they did have such an officer I then loudly asked him to describe the officer to me as I found it hard to believe that a genuine warranted constable when requesting assistance from ordinary law abiding members of the public would be quite so incongruous in his mannerisms. Given this I had suspected this man before me of impersonating a police officer and thought it prudent to ring the station and report my concerns.

I then loudly told the Sergeant the officer wished to remove yet another CCTV hard drive and that this would be the fifth CCTV hard drive of ours that the force would take and keep for 'evidence' requiring me to fork out for yet another hard drive to replace the numerous ones of ours the force already have and have had for over eighteen months in the worst case. When added to the officers lack of civility I was considering requiring the officer to Foxtrot Oscar and return with a warrant if he wanted the hard drive.

By this time bully boy had gone a violent shade of beetroot and stormed out as I loudly thanked the Sergeant for his time, suggested that the officer before me could do with some additional training and told the Sergeant he had restored my shattered faith in the police a little bit.

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[Quornholio]

[fatpies]

Police trust is a form of stockholm syndrome tbh.


The police have a monopoly on state sanctioned violence against civilians, well the army could be used in martial law...
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[Quornholio]

My complaint - The police, in at least I bet 70% of cases, don't know the laws they're supposed to enforce. How on earth can they do their job, if they don't know what they're doing?

A bit like me walking into a hospital theatre to carry out a triple bypass, with no idea of what the fuck I'm doing.

[oldpink]

ask yourself the question

if you were beaten up / robbed / offended by anyone would you

A) call the police
B) deal with it yourself

personally unless its a major issue that I have no choice I choose option B
purely out of the fact I don't want the police snooping around my life and the fact there useless most times
I can get better results by using contacts or talking to people

example
a couple of years ago I noticed my shed had been broken into overnight and a mini moto had gone missing
rather than call the police I put the word out that harm would befall the thief's when I caught them
unless said property was returned
4 hrs later said mini moto was left at my gate
even though I know who took it no retribution followed, the point was made
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[moonzoomer]

I wonder if folks opinions would change if the police in Britain got to play with real guns?

[Quornholio]

I wouldn't trust some of them with cap guns, never mind real guns.

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