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PostPosted: 12:46 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: The use of chillis in sauces? Reply with quote

Hey,

I've got some stupidly hot chillis here (thanks chilli growing guys Wink ) got one, chopped it up and boshed it into a bottle of tomato ketchup. Problem is there is next to no oomph Sad You get a little tingle on your tongue and that's about it. Try even the smallest sliver of the chilli outside of the bottle and damn, mouth is on fire.

Is there any reason this just isn't giving off the power I thought it would, could it be because I've refrigerated it? If not, please let me know as I fully intend to have a proper stealth bottle of Heinz Twisted Evil people that steal my Heinz shall be mad....
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fry bit gently in some olive oil first then add it
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt the capsaicin has dispersed properly, the chilli bits will still be very hot. Grind it up with a pestle and mortar (or spoon and cup if you are poor).

Add more chilli.

Perhaps soak ground chillis in a tiny splash of vodka first, dissolves the hot part. I have a bottle of vodka that has had half a dozen scotch bonnets soaking in it for about 3 years, hot as hell and the chillis have gone white.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Fry bit gently in some olive oil first then add it

Something like this.
You need to release the oils in the chilli.
Also are you are adding the seeds?
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah I just eat the seeds, they aren't really that hot Laughing

If I put the skin etc in my mouth its like slicing my tongue with a knife and then filling my mouth with salt and vinegar crisps.. I'd have expect it to have gone through the sauce like a son of a bitch. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Nah I just eat the seeds, they aren't really that hot Laughing


Well, the seeds are the fun for later, you see, digestive system can not process them, therefore your ass is going to meet the middle ages. Laughing

I once had a chilli, small red, how strong can it possibly be? I said alright, ate it, cried and then had flames in the bowl. Twisted Evil By the way, I wear contact lenses to ride, so 2 days after I cried once more. Never touched one again. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just take off the stem then put your chillis and sauce into a liquidiser and blitz it for a couple of minutes, then put it back in the bottle?
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
Why not just take off the stem then put your chillis and sauce into a liquidiser and blitz it for a couple of minutes, then put it back in the bottle?


Is that not the equivalent of what I have done? Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: The use of chillis in sauces? Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
please let me know as I fully intend to have a proper stealth bottle of Heinz Twisted Evil people that steal my Heinz shall be mad....


What happens in the perhaps unlikely event that they reach into the fridge while you're in the kitchen, produce the stealth bottle and ask, "can I have a bit of this, please?"
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just reckon there isn't a good dispersion of the chilli throughout the ketchup, one day I reckon you'll just get 100% of the chilli on one chip or something
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine about 100 bits of chilli... all floating in there Laughing That is the current mess Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Is that not the equivalent of what I have done? Laughing


You said you chopped it up... and I'm guessing you put it in the bottle and shook it up?

If you turn the chillies to a liquid (with the seeds too), then throw the sauce in and give it another quick mix then it should work
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're underestimating the seeds.

Maybe if you soak the chilli (and seeds) in a teaspoon of hot water first and then add the water, and just shake the bottle every couple of hours or so, to dissipate the zing, until the water is all amalgamated.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add more chillis - the seeds hold barely any heat, it's the white placenta around the seeds that's hot...

I've got a book by Dr Burnorium that has some chilli sauce recipes, all the recipes advise around 10 chillis...

Book linky:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Burnoriums-Compendium-Hot-Sauces-face-meltingly/dp/0957140932/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382641643&sr=1-1&keywords=compendium+of+hot+sauces
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketchup is full of sugar and sugar is the chilli's nemesis!

You're going to have to add more chillis to the ketchup to overcome the effect of the sugar!
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just ordered 9 of the current Guinness world record chillies, and ordered an already made sauce made of the same chillies.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some better chillis

https://www.uptonchilli.co.uk/index.php?dispatch=categories.catalog
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps soak ground chillis in a tiny splash of vodka first, dissolves the hot part. I have a bottle of vodka that has had half a dozen scotch bonnets soaking in it for about 3 years, hot as hell and the chillis have gone white.


I stuck a bhut jolokia into a small bottle of vodka for two weeks and that would put a die hard chilli head on their ass.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the chihuahua wrote:
Get some better chillis


Erm, I can't really get that much better Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My missus bought some chillis from Waitrose the other week that had about twenty chillis in the bag and on the front it said something like "one in ten of these chillis is a real zinger!"

I can't remember how she cooked them but she served them whole and made no mention of any potential hazard. I munched a few and they were quite nice, then started chewing on one that was a bit "Ew, this tastes like washing-powder." Seconds later it was "Eh...? w...t...f...?!" Then into the kitchen, gasping expletives and glomping milk, yoghurt, cream and chocolate.

"Sorry darling."

Not as bad as the one I had in Japan once, the size of a small Haribo. There were genuine ideas of an ambulance for that one, for the heart-attack I thought I was having.

So fuck your chillis. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
My missus bought some chillis from Waitrose the other week that had about twenty chillis in the bag and on the front it said something like "one in ten of these chillis is a real zinger!"


Ahh. The good old rogue chilli.

I remember getting a row off the Mrs for feeding her pet rabbit raw chillis. I pointed out that they weren't all that hot, just finger chillis and bit off about half the one I'd been feeding to the rabbit (I'd been chopping a mixed bag of chillis I'd bought from a farmers market to make a chilli sauce for my Kofte kebabs).

I was almost immediately subjected to a sensation I could describe as being like someone had pulled my tongue out, placed it on an anvil and hit it hard with a hammer. There was no heat, no flavour, just pain.

Once it had died down a bit, I then proceeded to trip balls for about the next half hour.

Rabbits appear to be totaly immune to the effects of capsicum.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

I remember getting a row off the Mrs for feeding her pet rabbit raw chillis. I pointed out that they weren't all that hot, just finger chillis and bit off about half the one I'd been feeding to the rabbit (I'd been chopping a mixed bag of chillis I'd bought from a farmers market to make a chilli sauce for my Kofte kebabs).

I was almost immediately subjected to a sensation I could describe as being like someone had pulled my tongue out, placed it on an anvil and hit it hard with a hammer. There was no heat, no flavour, just pain.

Once it had died down a bit, I then proceeded to trip balls for about the next half hour.

Meh... There's a stall in St Nicks market that sells only chilli sauce. My friend came down from Glasgow 1 year and we ended up going to the stall.... I asked for a sample of their hottest sauce (A++++ or something like that), the guy put a dot on a couple of tortilla chips and handed them over.... my friend started dancing around instantly complaining of the heat.... I on the other hand chomped away saying something along the lines of 'it's not that bad'. About 10 seconds later I had to actually leave the market to lie outside in a fetal position with severe chest pains.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of us have to endure that every day. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Some of us have to endure that every day. Twisted Evil


That would be tragic. I feel your pain


I fucking hate markets
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
"one in ten of these chillis is a real zinger!"


The spanish have a recipe for pimientos de padron. These chilis are as you describe, just regular peppers. They cut them in half, fill with cheese and grill them. But 1/10 is evil, with no visual clue as to which will most likely be hot.


Paddy, as others have said. Sugar counteracts, as does acidity (the vinegar) and it also takes time for the Capsicum to permeate across the sauce.
You can speed up the process..... just add more Chillies Smile
Or let it brew for a week or so.
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