police find a 3D printed gun, or maybe not LOL

[oldpink]

oops think the may need to apologise to the shop owner

[loply]

The totally daft thing about this whole '3D printed gun' pallava is that it would be both cheaper, easier and a lot more effective to simply make a metal gun instead, so it's pure scaremongering and idiocy.

A decent 3D printer costs more than a used huge CNC milling machine, on which you could knock out machine guns relatively easily. Plus the ammunition.
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But lets not forget a major part of this panic is due to old manufacturing companies the ones that are left and not outsourced to China, and the ones who have outsourced to China (the ones that pay bribes to our politicians) starting to realise that if we can print something for 50p , then why would we pay £50 for it?

While we're not at that point yet, we certainly will be in 5 years. In 10-15 years, we'll be able to print iPods. Once that happens... why buy an iPod, when you can download a crowd-engineered alternative that's better and cheaper?

I expect some form of faux outrage to ramp up and 3D printing to be banned or seriously restricted soon. It's too disruptive for us us mere plebeians to be allowed to have.

Thus nowhere.elysium will be arrested as an Islamic terrorist and no longer have to worry about rent or mortgage.
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[metalangel]

This might deserve its own thread... presumably your printer can do them any size? Do you have a series of template skulls (normal, chewed up looking, ones where the eye sockets are slightly tilted to make them look evil) and then people specify size and colour and material?


What tickled me was two goth teenagers sloping into the store and saying 'two skulls' in the same way you'd say '8 Ace' and the proprietor running them off on his printer and handing them over. Then they take the skulls and look at them from different angles while drinking vodka out of a 7up bottle in a graveyard.
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[nowhere.elysium]

[Joncrete Cungle]

GMP shot themselves in the foot. The knicker wetting surrounding 'guns' in the UK never ceases to amaze and sadden me at the same time.

[Hetzer]

The UK, policed by hysterics for a nation of hysterics.
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[Joncrete Cungle]

[nowhere.elysium]

[MarJay]

[smegballs]

So I'm a big nasty criminal and I want to get guns for me and the boys.

Do I:

A: Spend a few grand on a 3d printer to make some plastic guns more likely to hurt me than the target.

B: Just buy black market guns.

C: Pay a sympathetic 'old boy' hobby engineer to make them for me.

D: Spend less than a 100 quid on tools and materials and make some Luty smg's

E: Buy a 2nd hand lathe on ebay and teach myself machining.


Pretty much anything is more likely than the 3d printer option... It really makes no sense. I don't know whether to laugh or cry every time there is an article banging on about "3d printed guns" or "converted blank firers" or "reactivated guns".

Anyone who know anything about guns would know that its easier to build a gun from scratch than it is to "convert a black firer" or "reactivate" a deac....

Over in the states hobby machinists build guns just like hobby machinists over here build model steam engines. It's not that uncommon a thing to do. You have everything from guys making custom chamber reamers for wildcat cartridges with their sexy bridgeports mills, to guys doing "no machine tool" builds just to see how far they can get with hacksaws, files and their imagination.

[Hetzer]

[BTTD]

As far as I'm aware the only "legislated"* part of a firearm is the barrel.
You can buy trigger mech's and magazines without a licence anyway. You can even buy brass shells, powder and bullets, only the primers need an FAC.
Everything they've been reported of accusing him of is perfectly legal to own and buy anyway.

Radio 4 was reporting that he could have been producing firearms that aren't detected by scanners / metal detectors.
From what I've read the major stumbling block on that idea is the need for a spring for the firing pin, and the actual ammo itself.
Youtube search zip gun and you'll find much easier ways of making disposable (and potentially self harming) firearms.

To have reported any of this convinces me that the media is full of retards who don't even attempt a rudimentary understanding of what they're talking about.



*Not sure if that's the correct terminology, but you know what I mean.

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[Rockhopper]

The "controlled" parts are what's known as "pressure bearing" parts such as the barrel, breech, firing pin and so on.

[Rogerborg]

Are we really still not past that "ceramic Glock 7" Die Hard twaddle?

IIRC a shotgun license is good for up to a 2" barrel muzzle loading cannon. I'd love to see drug gangs settling their differences with light horse drawn artillery.
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