Energy Companies (and other scumbags)

[Polarbear]

So when are the Tories going to come clean and admit the privatisation of energy companies has been the biggest fuck up as far as most 'normal' people are concerned.

Add the rail companies and the water companies and I'm struggling to see anything good come out of privatisation.

I'm a relatively large wage earner, but I cringe at some of the shite Tory ministers come out with.
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

The letter I received from my supplier had the balls to quote :-

[oldpink]

I've been looking around and the smaller companys seem best
best quote was a saving of £500 from a dual bill of £2300 a year down to £1800 from First Utility
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[Quornholio]

[oldpink]

well from what I see all privatisation has done is drive up prices to pay bonuses to the few at the expense of the many
they should have never sold off the core services like leccy gas & rail / transport
these are basics a country needs to function, they shouldn't be used to make the rich richer at the cost of the customer

and the gubberment is just as bad, how much Tax does it get from the power company's directly and in tax from there profits / bonuses
use that to cut the cost of fuel
same as for petrol a large chunk of what you pay to the garage to keep you mobile goes right into HMRC's coffers
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[syl]

If it was in public hands with the inherent politicalisation and public sector inefficiency, I have no doubt that it would be more expensive - either directly or through general taxation. Probably employ double the number of staff though (and quadruple the number of middle managers).
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[Quornholio]

[Ste]

"We need to have a very thorough Competition Commission inquiry,"

Petrol stations (mainly the supermarkets) have price wars, one puts their prices down and (most) of the others follow. Energy companies do the exact opposite.

[smegballs]

[oldpink]

privatised means someone has to make a profit thats the bottom line
if a company isn't profitable nobody wants a piece of it
only sustainable answer is public sector but running at a minimum profit to cover investment
in essence non profit making but not running at a loss

the energy sector all use the same pipes for gas and cables to supply you leccy
they just dress it up as we are your best option and will save you money
when thats not the case, suppliers reliant on gas as there prime source of power generation are fu***
those in mixed source are OK
nuclear and renewable are quids in as they have little to no cost of source energy (cost of Gas or coal) to fire there power stations

Oh as for the "green Tariff" regardless if its charged by your supplier or a general tax absorbed by the general tax burden
you will still pay it one way or another so no net gain if they abolish it on the suppliers bills
you will pay for it in another way so no better offf
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[Quornholio]

Now, I don't agree with nuclear power, for the simple reason that, although it may low CO2, there is a lot of waste that is dangerous for a long time. And it's certainly a risk with the towel heads running around, wanting to pay homage to Guy Fawkes.

[oldpink]

well we have no choice
Cameron & co signed us up to a deal with the French (edf) and the Chinese to build our nuclear future which will take 20 years before its on stream
and at a rate of almost double the current Kw pr hr charge to supply once the plants are up and running
so expect fuel bills to double when that comes on tap as it is already agreed to

so even if we find a cheap renewable source before then (20 odd years) we still have to pay the rate we promised

BTW I worked for British Energy running the backup for there nuclear plants in Scotland before it was sold off to EDF
my job is now done by a French guy in Lyon and not in Scotland where the plants are
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[Polarbear]

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[doggone]

[unitynotsocri...]

As winter approaches , I think we should stop being selfish about paying outrageous energy costs....

and pray to baby jesus in his cot touching his todge that

A: FUKISHIMA does'nt blow up.
B: The UK's creaking reactors don't blow up.
C: God is kind and the winter is mild, although its not looking toon good at the mo.
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[Rogerborg]

Are we talking about that OVO exec blabbing to the politicos that stories of wholesale gas price rises are a whopping big fat lie?
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[Suntan Sid]

You should also remember that when water was privatised the waste water side, ie sewage, was left in public hands. It's called privatising profit and saddling the public sector with debt!

Water, Electricity, Gas, BT, Railways, Council housing, all sold off for a fraction of what they were worth, where has all the money gone? The overall tax burden has gone up since, FFS!

Most recently, Royal Mail, even the accountants have now admitted it was sold off at 50% of its true value, and guess what, the pension liabilties stayed with the public purse, hoo-fuckin'-rah!

To add insult to injury, as soon as the shareholders, in these private enterprises, see their dividends dropping, they demand to be bailed out via the public coffers!

It gets even better though, all the Megacorps, who now own all our assets, manage to avoid paying tax in the UK, so the percieved wealth and benefits, that the sell offs were supposed to bring to the economy, have dissappeared overseas, fcukin' brilliant!

When are the public going to wake up and realise succesive governments, of all persuasions, have been syphoning public money into the pockets of their financial backers?
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[Kickstart]

Hi

From memory the profit per customer was about £25 a year (hence taking about a year to cover the cost of acquiring a customer) a few years ago. Now £100 each. £100 for 5m customers is £500m profit, which is a massive amount.

I used to work for an electric company, and I have seen how things got screwed up as time moved on (following initial privatisation things worked well). A massive new computer system taking ~6 years to develop being scrapped at the last moment at a massive cost. Closing down call centres and moving them to a cheaper area, ignoring that the cheap staff didn't have a clue.

While I think some of the things the energy companies are attacked for is just ill informed bitching, they do not appear to be well run businesses anymore.

All the best

Keith
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[Quornholio]

Re the computer system - that happens in govt run capacities - NHS linked computer system anyone?

[Kickstart]

[Quornholio]

In my eyes, the NHS computer system would be an excellent idea, with records accessible anywhere. It's the numpties who can't implement it that are the problem.

[oldpink]

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