Abit of help please..

[Tunga]

Hi all,
First abit of background info (please don't flame the hell out of me, i'm a newbie and this is my first post).

I'm 27 years old and decided when I was about 14 I wanted a motorbike. of course my parents thought this was a bad idea (although my dad is a biker and had a 1000cc RSV). I was kind of "pushed" into getting a car instead of a bike, so I have had three cars since passing and currently had a Honda Civic Type R for six years now.

I recently decided I want to go back to getting a bike and although parents still not cool with it its "my choice" so they tell me (my dad currently owns a Ducati 749).
I have passed my Mod 1 as of Tuesday and awaiting a Mod 2 test date currently.
I am learning on a Yamaha FZ6 which I quite like handling wise and so forth (havent dropped any bike once yet!)
I guess what I am trying to ask is I have had my eye on a R6 or a Daytona 675 (really looking to get something between the 600-700 range when I pass). Are these good potential bikes, or should I be looking at something like a street triple?.
Money isnt a problem as such, although I wont be buying new for a first bike. I will be using it though for commuting to work (anything I need for work can just fit in a back pack).

Any thoughts appreciated and sorry for the spam
Paul

[P.addy]

inb4 sports bike gonna go in hedge and you'll die.

Get whatever you feel comfortable on.

I've had all manner of bikes aside from cruisers and for me sports bikes fit nicely. The Daytona is considered a torture rack by some people, but others get on really well with it.

Sit on some bikes and see how you feel.

oh, gotta be done.... vtec just kicked in yo'

[Bendy]

[Tunga]

Vtec just kicked in yo made me laugh ha

Um, the commute is through a place called Newton Abbot in Devon, which if anyone knows is a crap hole for traffic.
In the morning it takes 10 mins to get to work through normal roads and about three round abouts so no problem. On the way back its a hell of alot of traffic so if I cant get around it I drive down a country lane just a little bit wider than a car in some places.

I also plan to do a fair bit of distance riding as in to Birmingham, Oxford and Essex.

Edit: Parking in the day is in a large enclosed car park although there is some gravel patches. At home it'd be on a drive way

[P.addy]

Yeah, I'd not really have a dedicated sports bike for something like that, more a middle ground, CBR600F or F Sport at a push.

That said I've done 2,500 miles around Spain on a 2001 R1 and was perfectly fine, long journeys on the motorway were alright but I'd have preferred something with a better seat.

[angryjonny]

I can't really think of a less appropriate first bike than a Daytona or an R6. But it's your money so get what you want.

Personally, an FZ6 sounds perfect for a commuter and general fun bike. In my day you learned on ER5s and the ilk (I learned on a super-four) so a Fazer 600 seemed exotic. A Bandit was the de-facto first bike and anyone on a CBR-RR who couldn't handle the position and rode it like it was made of semtex got laughed at a lot.

[Rogerborg]

We can throw numbers and anecdotes at you - someone will be along in a minute to rant about the 600cc sportsbikes that he hasn't ridden - but it really will come down to personal choice.

Me, I've found that I like low down torque, a comfortable riding position, and decent fuel economy, so I ride a detuned 800 twin "adventure" bike that I find ideal for me and a lardy ped.

Even something like a Bandit 650 makes its power a little too high up and is just a smidgen too knees-bent for me, although it's a better bike for many people.

Sit on loads (why wait, do that now), ride a few when you get the chance, and see what you like. There's an ideal bike for everyone, you just need to find it.

I'd suggest that you pop along to https://cycle-ergo.com/ and see how you measure up on bikes. On an R6, for example, I'd be leaning forwards at 46 degrees, which I can't be doing with. A FZ6 puts me at 19 degrees, with nearly right-angle knees, much better - from my point of view.

Oh, and take the opportunity to thrash the nuts off of that Fazer at least once so that you know what even a "commuter" bike is capable of.
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[c_dug]

A few years back my supervisor in a shop bought himself a brand new R6 as his first bike and all of the top end gear to go with it.

He crashed twice in his first 6 months.

As per the others I would say if you really want a supersport for your first bike go ahead and do it, just be aware that they're not particularly n00b friendly bikes in the way they go, turn and stop.

The street triple you mentioned will undoubtedly be more comfortable and economical for the commute and just as quick in almost any situation.
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[Tunga]

Thanks for the replies, taking it all onboard.

As for thrashing the Fazer, I have had a couple of chances to "get it going" when going onto the dual carriageway on the way back his instructions were to "accelerate briskly" when a Corsa was right up my arse.
I've sat on the Daytona, Triple etc which seemed fine but will make sure I check out that website when I get home

[Nobby the Bastard]

If you are new to bikes, you WILL be intoxicated by the speed, the acceleration, and the maneouverability in traffic.

Do yourself a favour and get a lowish power bike to start with. At least when you crash (and you will), hopefully it will be when you are doinmg less than a ton and you stand a better (though probably still slight slim) chance of surviving with your limbs intact and working.

Then, once you have learned the necessary roadcraft, then get a fast one....
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[c_dug]

And, for the record, crashing hurts.
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I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock.

[P.addy]

I'm not dead and have only ever properly crashed a 125.
Went 125 > 60 > 1000 in a few weeks and did not die.

[Rogerborg]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Crashing isn't inevitable, but the probability is high, especially when just starting out.
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Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[totalllama82]

VFR800 may be a consideration. It's a good commuter and will handle your short trips in addition to the longer ones with ease. It doesn't tend to be as track orientated as the bikes you listed however, it isn't a slouch either.
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Current: Kawasaki ZZR 1400 A7F

[DaveB]

I wanted a Daytona as a first (big bike) even at 43 the insurance was a bit toppy so went with the Street Triple. Had that a year and the hankering for a Daytona got the better of me so went for it...They are both great bikes (not ridden anything else though except the XJ6 I did my test on) so cant compare to anything else but love the Daytona. I don't commute on it though, and think if I did I'd go with the Street.
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Current ride: 2014 Triumph Street Triple R. Previous, 2007 Triumph Daytona 675, 2007 Triumph Street Triple, 2011 Derbi GPR125r.

[Polarbear]

[angryjonny]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[-Matt-]

[J.M.]

If you're commuting a lot in heavy traffic, a sports bike wouldn't cross my mind. I'd go for something comfier, cheaper and that gives me a better view of the road.

But get whatever bike you like, just respect it or it'll bite you.
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[dannyb3]

At the risk of being rude, bollox. Get the bike you lust after if you can afford it. Unless you a Paivi in pink scooter mode you buy a bike for the fun [/quote]

I couldn't agree with you more polarbear.
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[Rogerborg]

[c_dug]

My cbr600f was ace at getting through the traffic. Still my divvy9 is/was no slouch either. I think its more down to the mentality of the rider than the bike itself.
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[J.M.]