OCD Ward on ITV

[Skudd]

I'm of the belief that OCD only occurs because people are allowed to do it and so it gets bigger and bigger until it becomes very silly.

I will watch it with an open mind, well partly open.

The only bit of OCD that you could say that I have is that I put my right glove on before my left or my right boot on before my left. but I would make it as an actual issue.
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[Skudd]

[hjmarty]

ocd doesnt only occur because people are allowed to do it . i dont mean to be rude, but thats a really simplistic and naive way of looking at a very complexed and deep routed problem.
if you study brain scans of people suffering from ocd there are marked differences in certain areas of the brain suggesting neurological changes in the way the brain fires and works.
leaving all that biological stuff aside, ocd is an anxiety disorder that cant just be cast aside by choice. if human beings were that in control of their emotions no one would mourn the death of a loved one , or feel any fear or negative emotions.we cant do that of course,because human beings arent always able to control negative emotions, anxiety , sadness etc ....hence disorders like ocd occur.

sorry if my post is all jumbled ...... i'm over tired ....i know what i'm trying to say

thank you for watching the programme anyway , and my apologies if my post came over a little harsh

[Bubbs]

OCD is a funny one. We all have OCD habbits, but it's only noticable when they go a bit too far.

A lot of people avoid walking over 3 drains in the street because they were told at some point that it was unlucky. I do it myself without thinking. Just one of those things you start doing and it becomes uncomfortable to keep avoiding it.

Another one people don't like is when numbers aren't even. Like turning up the tv volume... if it lands on an odd number you feel a little uncomfortable. This never bothered me until someone pointed it out... now I feel a little odd when it lands on an odd number.

That's the thing with all Anxiety Disorders. Avoidance is what teaches the brain that there is a threat present. The more you avoid it the more your brain learns that it's a threat. I'm sure most people on here have fear of public speaking, and avoid it wherever possible. I bet the idea of doing public speaking makes you break out into a sweat and get really nervous. You've been told all your lives that this is something everyone is scared of, and you should fear it. It's been reinforced over and over and has become a genuine fear. What is the fear of though? All your doing is talking, you do that everyday.

This is the exact same feeling people get with turning the switch on and off 4 times. Or when people with panic disorder can't leave the house. It is the process of you telling your brain that it is a threat, and everytime you avoid it makes it more real... until your too scared to do anything.

I used to think this would never happen to me, and i'd laugh at people who were so 'weak'. Well it did happen to me, and it was horrible.

So in a way Skudd is right. If they are left to convince themselves that avoidance is the key then they are doomed. They need people to push them through the uncomfortable issues to avoid the mind traps that they are setting for themselves.

I became OCD about my breathing... now that is fucking horrible. I felt that if I didn't control every breath then I would die. I did this for 5 years and had a massive breakdown. When you reiforce the idea that you have to make yourself breathe rather than letting it happen naturally you turn into a quivering mess. Don't believe me? Try hyperventillating for as long as you can... I'd feel like that 24/7! HORRIBLE..

Apologies for the long post. I'm procrastinating, which is incidentally and avoidance behaviour for doing actual work and can be considered an OCD trait. Those mind traps are everywhere people and I bet you do a lot more than you realise.
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[daemonoid]

I had an ex who had OCD, it was a coping mechanism for all the shit that went on in her life. She had absolutely no control and a thoroughly shit time, but she managed to find a form of control in her eating (anorexia and bulimia) and OCD.

It's a mental problem that simply does not go away because you tell someone it should. You can't rationalise it to people, especially as sufferers from the likes of OCD and anorexia have above average IQs and normally know what they're doing is irrational. It's a compulsion, that however it initially occurs, can't be sorted by a good slap and a bit of common sense.

I think those that cannot empathise or understand the possibility of people's brains being wired up differently to theirs are also suffering from a mental disorder... A lack of empathy or simple stupidity is just as bad as OCD...
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[Skudd]

It isn't a lack of empathy, or the usual you are thick so you don't understand insult, but with a lot of the OCD it has been tolerated and then it has become greater, where if it had not been tolerated then it wouldn't become an issue.

My OCD is I like to have a shower after I have had a crap, but if we are about to go to the shops and I need a crap first, I wouldn't then have a shower and slow others down. I wouldn't not go camping because I couldn't have a shower after a crap. My other little OCD is that I like to have plenty of bog rolls in the house, but I would fill the spare room with them so that no one else could use the room and I expect someone would pull me up after I had bought my 80th toll (I only have 42 in the house at the moment)

Like I said, most OCD occurs because we let it and we become all to scared to say STOP.
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[Hetzer]

I had various OCDs when I was young. I stopped them by developing a mentally internal mechanism, which I still use on occasion now.

I believe they're more of a problem the lower down the IQ index a person is, generally speaking.
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[stinkwheel]

There are brain differences BUT which came first, the compulsive behaviour or the changes to the brain?

Are they acting oddly because the brain is different or has the brain changed as a result of the behaviour?

I set an OCD test for interviewes at work by placing a full pack of eraser-tip pencils with one of them in the opposite way round on the desk then leaving them in the room with it for a while. When you come back in, you can see if it's bothered them enough to turn it round.

I also agree with the Skudd. If you ignore the behaviour and just allow it to carry on as if it is normal, it gets worse and more ingrained. Neural pathways can be built in many ways, it's a dynamic process. The first step to stopping an adverse behaviour pattern is to stop doing that behaviour. Or at least try to.
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[Bubbs]

[Hetzer]

[Skudd]

I had a friend who had to walk through a door way 4 times when going in or out of the house, if he wasn't in the car in time for us to leave we started to leave him, after a while he stopped doing it while we were there, but carried on when others were present and we were not.

Like the guy who could touch things that were dirty or he thought were dirty, he has only got to that extreme because he is allowed to do so. If he had been checked earlier, told not to use his feet to use the washer etc then he wouldn't.
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Petty Anarchists look at "1984".............. The Visionary looks at "Animal Farm".

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[Minty]

I have caught a mild dose of OCD or I have the variant 'OCD by Proxy'.

By this I mean I straighten cushions, line up curtains nicely and stack all the tins in uniform as I know it would bother the wife, otherwise, who has mild OCD.

I used to be a such a manly man too.
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[GhostRider]

Socks before or after trousers, but never socks before pants, that's the rule. Makes a man look scary, like a chicken.

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[hedgehugger]

I hang my shopping bags by one handle on the doorhandle, once they've been emptied. I tended to do this without thinking, it's just the way it is.
Mr Hedgehugger hung them up by both handles and it really bothered me enough to have to say something.
He thinks I'm mad for doing it that way but complies to please me.

There are lots of things that bother some people, but not others. I wouldn't see this as an OCD, just a mental characteristic.


I used to be in a women's refuge. We had a new 'inmate' who arrived with an OCD (not touching doorhandles). She would only use them by pulling her sleeves over her hands, or elbows.
The doors in the house didn't have handles, but knobs and she couldn't get a grip.
Within a few days she realised how impractical it was for her, and she stopped.

[Skudd]

[stinkwheel]

Mrs stinkwheel accuses me of being OCD because I like to put things back in the same place every time (like having one shelf in the kitchen cupboard for dry goods, one for sauces/oils/vinegars, and one for canned goods.).

Apparently it is totally irrational and any normal person when looking, for example, for their motorbike gloves should expect them to be variously: behind the sofa, in a box in the kitchen, in the airing cupboard, in a tank bag on a shelf in the study, on the bookshelf, in the fruitbowl, under the bed in a drybag or on the saddle of the bike in the garage.

It's me being totally irrational by expecting them to be where I left them (so either hung up in the porch or on the floor next to the door with my helmet).

I accept now that I have a mental problem because any sane and rational person would not expect to be able to locate any of their posessions when they want to use them.

So, my question for the panel, is there such a thing as reverse OCD?
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[Hetzer]