first bike options after DAS

[White Noise]

Hi all,
this is my first post, so play nice
Hope this doesn't repeat previously posts too much!
I am in the process of getting my full licence through DAS in early january and hope to have it all worked out by the end of january, already passed the theory test, now i've started to think about what i am going to do about getting my bike. been thinking about saving up to get ideally a SV650, but this is going to take me ages!!! so i figure that i should save about £1500 to get me started and buy a old but reliable 500-600cc bike that i can have for a year, buy equip and TPFT insurance. this way i can have something to really learn on and probably drop a few times . Also i will be able to enjoy the summer on a bike! and in the mean time i can save up for something special.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback about if this sounds feasible and any suggestions on a cheap reliable 500-600cc bike, hopefully something a bit more classier than a ER500. no offence intended.
Cheers
WN

[Flip]

Welcome, new comer

Sh1tloads of bikes for £1500 mate, what are you looking for? Sport? Road? What? ZXR400, CB500, ER-5, GPZ 500, GSXR400... If you have an idea of what style want it'll make your choice easier

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/BIKES/bikes.jsp Register here, it'll help

[White Noise]

Cheers mate,
i was thinking of £1500 total buget, bike+insurance+kit
any ideas, would want the bike for commuting to work and escaping brighton on the weekends
WN

[Flip]

I reckon you'll be lucky to do ALL that on £1500 mate. You'd pick up a dog for a few hundred...Could be wrong though

Bike trader (the actual mag) has a bargain £1000 and under section in it.

You may be better off getting a 125 and derestict it. Nitro do cheap lids n' stuff and insurance all depends on your age etc.

Have you looked in our exchange section for a cheap bike?

[White Noise]

think that i will up the budget to 2K and see what i can can get bike wise around the 1K mark. not looking for anythng special just something that runs well and can have fun too.
cheers
WN

[Flip]

£2000 will make it a lot easier for you. £1500 maybe possible though. Stick around this forum dude, it'll help you out.

Play nice you'll be fine.

[White Noise]

Aye, got shed loads of info from previous posts already!
Just can't wait to get my CBT and DAS done!
WN

[G]

I'd look at something like a GPZ500 for around £750.


How old are you?

TPFT insurance probably won't be worth it on a bike of that value if you keep your budget .

Say a £1k bike and £500 insurance (ok that's
Bike gets stolen after 6 months.

You lose the rest of the policy, can't transfer it as you could if it you didn't claim.
So that's £250 down.
Then there's the excess, so that's another £250 say.
Your insurance will go up when you try to renew, another £100 say (it will stay a bit higher for another 5 years, you would also have got cheaper insurance without a claim as you could use your NCB)
So now you have to shell out for more insurance for your replacement bike, say £300 for the first 6 months.

So that's £100 you got from your 'insurance' for your £1k bike. However you also paid extra for TPFT, say £200 extra.

So even if you had your bike stolen, you would lose more money if you had TPFT insurance and claimed that if you had TPO.

[White Noise]

found a GPZ500 on bike trader for £800
(1992 - KAWASAKI GPZ-k reg, silver, excellent condition, mot untill Sept 05,. 20000 miles. £800.)
i'm 23, bike would be on the street ,no points, had a driving licence for 3 years.
Think that maybe TPO could be considered for saving money, just would have to hope that it didn't look too inviting to be nicked, plus buying a huge lock!!!
WN

[G]

A big lock and chain is probably a better investment... and /can/ be transferred to your next bike .

[Flip]

Have you not got a yard to put it in?

If you have, tell a porky and tell 'em youv'e got a garage

[White Noise]

nope live in a terrace house with no access to the back yard, could store in the front yard but its a real tight squeeze to do! so i think that the road will have to be it

[Bendy]

[shop_addict]

WN I live in a terrace with a front yard, and no access to the back as well.

I got about 6 companies to give me quotes for my bike, and for each of them I asked for them to quote both for the bike being on the street (chained to the lamppost) and for the bike being in the front yard chained to a ground anchor. None of them quoted any difference! It was explained to me that unless it's locked away, out of sight, it matters little whether it's on your property or not!

Then again....I live opposite a side street and have twice seen cars slide across the junction in winter a smack into a parked car - so as soon as I can widen the gate, my bike will be kipping in the front yard.

Jo

[Barker-CBR 600]

If you are only going for TP. Then where you keep it doesnt become an issue.. since the insurance company doesnt care if it gets nicked.

With Security -

Get a good sturdy chain to attach to solid/immovable objects.

Get a disc lock for when there is nothing solid to lock it to, two forms of security are far more offputting. And also someone who has some chain cutting equipment might not have the kit to deal with a disc lock as well.

An alarm system very useful if you keep it near your house... know the sound so you can run out shotgun in hand, and it stops pesky locals poking around or 'deciding to have a sit on it'.
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[White Noise]

Cheers shop_addict for the info on the insurance whether it will be on the road or the front yard, and how that effects the price. Think that a chain and disk lock is the way forward, along as there not able to be opened with a pen!
I live on a quiet one way street so that cuts down on any cars that could plough into it!
just can't wait till i actually get my bike, any people got any quick legal ways to get 2K? kidney donation?
WN

[freestyler_onli]

I want a Suzuki GSX-R 600. 2 reasons: 1- i want that bike- i love it!
2. It's less prone to breaking like my 125.

Do you lot reckon it's best to buy a run in one-or brand new??

[nick.h]

[freestyler_onli]

Right ta for that. I'll see what happens at the time!

[G]

[Kickstart]

Hi

The difference between tpo and tpft is quite often a nominal amount (for one person I knew, under £5 on a £1300 policy).

£1500 should be enough. Should be able to get a GPZ500 for about half that, £500 for the insurance (probably less) leaving you with £250 to source some bike gear. Hunt round and you should be able to find some stuff within that budget that fits.

All the best

Keith
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[White Noise]

cheers
if it turns out that the difference between TPO and TPFT is nominal, (less than 50 quid) will go for TPFT, hopefully will find a suitable bike for £750-£1000, but don't want to scrimp on my gear as i have enough trouble staying on my mountain bike!
WN