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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Human jobs being replaced by technology. Reply with quote

Obviously this is a good thing - the daily grinds of life being done by machines instead. But in the current system, when technology takes your job away, you have to simply join the dole queue.

As everything gets more and more advanced, peoples' jobs are just going to become more and more obsolete.

So more and more people inevitably end up on welfare.

How long can that last? And why is it such a worry when really we should be happy about how much easier life can now be?

Watching this now - Will Work For Free. Thought I'd share it before I get to the end. Seems interesting so far Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for now someone will have to mend & maintain the machines.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Well for now someone will have to mend & maintain the machines.


Nah, machines'll be able to do that soon.

Then it'll be machines making, and repairing machines. Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
pepperami wrote:
Well for now someone will have to mend & maintain the machines.


Nah, machines'll be able to do that soon.

Then it'll be machines making, and repairing machines. Shocked


Skynet perhaps?
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:


Skynet perhaps?


I was thinking more along the lines of The Matrix eventually, but we can run with Skynet if you prefer.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe we'll end up like The Culture
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost halfway through the documentary now. It's really, really interesting.

It highlights really well how almost all forms of labour will be rendered obsolete by technology.

Ok there'll be the people required to understand/fix the machines, but we don't exactly need 7 billion technicians to keep things running smoothly.

Anyway watch the vid, it's really interesting Karma
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm somewhat surprised at the amount of work that is still manual labour when it could be automated.

Do a job that requires your mind. If you are too stupid for such a job, I'm sure you can be recycled. My cats are always hungry.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why we're all here in this reality playing this game; back in the other reality (which is also a simulation) all the jobs are automated and we're bored.

Eh?
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Do a job that requires your mind.


Until robots are better at that too.

At this point our only real hope is that people will prefer humans over machines when it comes to service sector jobs.

But they may well not have a choice.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:

At this point our only real hope is that people will prefer humans over machines when it comes to service sector jobs.

But they may well not have a choice.


When given the choice different people do differ, but the expansion of the "self serve" checkouts in most supermarkets, and the expansion of internet shopping (and decline in the "high street") shows which way things are heading.

I wouldn't mind the "self serve" checkouts so much, but if I use one I do not get paid!?! (or any discount)
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't mind the "self serve" checkouts so much, but if I use one I do not get paid!?! (or any discount)
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Depends how many things you put through as onions. Wink

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2439872/Ex-international-hockey-player-stole-450-Sainsburys-self-service-scam-scanning-groceries-loose-onions.html
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Human jobs being replaced by technology. Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Obviously this is a good thing - the daily grinds of life being done by machines instead. But in the current system, when technology takes your job away, you have to simply join the dole queue.

As everything gets more and more advanced, peoples' jobs are just going to become more and more obsolete.

So more and more people inevitably end up on welfare.

How long can that last? And why is it such a worry when really we should be happy about how much easier life can now be?

Watching this now - Will Work For Free. Thought I'd share it before I get to the end. Seems interesting so far Thumbs Up


This is a very interesting story I read years ago about exactly what you are describing.

I believe this will be the ultimate downfall of countries like America. Perhaps more "socialist Twisted Evil" countries will end up like the 'Australia project'.

Read the story:
https://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've just finished watching it all. Mega, mega interesting.

It kind of just confirmed stuff I already assumed to be true - society will inevitably begin to automate itself and in theory humans should have more time to do as they please.

It was just interesting because the documentary quite specifically outlined how every sector could easily slash a good 90% of the human input.

Actually the amount of things that can be done by technology today is quite amazing (all in the video). If only the selfish profit-incentive of humans would stop stifling all the new ideas. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
So I've just finished watching it all. Mega, mega interesting.

It kind of just confirmed stuff I already assumed to be true - society will inevitably begin to automate itself and in theory humans should have more time to do as they please.

It was just interesting because the documentary quite specifically outlined how every sector could easily slash a good 90% of the human input.

Actually the amount of things that can be done by technology today is quite amazing (all in the video). If only the selfish profit-incentive of humans would stop stifling all the new ideas. Thumbs Down


You are protesting against the profit-motive?

You must be some kind of liberal bleeding heart leftist pussy animal rights betamale fairy faggot! Nobody wants to listen to those, shut up, your points are invalid because reasons!
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fundamentally it'll mean less toys and resources and stuff available for the elite, which is why they'll maintain the pretense of everyone needing a job for as long as possible.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised at the amount of work that is still manual labour when it could be automated.

Do a job that requires your mind. If you are too stupid for such a job, I'm sure you can be recycled. My cats are always hungry.


My job required the use of my mind and a lot of manual labour. No machine can make the constant reasoned judgements that are required in my work, so I guess I'm safe for now Smile

More on-topic, from next autumn there will be no toll boothes at Dartford Crossing, the system is going fully ANPR. It'll cost a fiver a day for as many crossings as you like as I understand it.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
It kind of just confirmed stuff I already assumed to be true - society will inevitably begin to automate itself and in theory humans should have more time to do as they please.


Please, they were twaddling out this bollocks in the 70's when I was at school. The bleak reality is that jobs will be used at carrots to keep the few privileged select technocrats with some disposable income to play with toys, as long as they keep quiet while they are taxed to fuck. The morass will be reduced to dumb ultra peasant status, likely to be sedated then sterilised to oblivion, since they ultra rich don't need a mass of useless eaters, and the technocrat class certainly don't want to pay for their existence.

As Robby said, your dog food on legs. He's hoping he can slime up the civil service pole to remain useful to his masters, but once they've found a new, younger, keener more servile model or he's replaced by Slimebot 2.0, then he's dog food just like the rest that he despises so much, and it's into the meat grinder you go.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
Please, they were twaddling out this bollocks in the 70's when I was at school.


Yep, we were all meant to be working 20 hours a week by now, with loads of leisure time to do what we liked. Unfortunately they don't want to pay us a full time wage for a part time job, in fact they want to drive pay down so we're working more hours than ever.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

More on-topic, from next autumn there will be no toll boothes at Dartford Crossing, the system is going fully ANPR. It'll cost a fiver a day for as many crossings as you like as I understand it.


Piss sticks. It was a cheap way to drag race your mates on the auto toll booths. Sad
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