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PostPosted: 00:07 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: composting Reply with quote

I try to compost all my vegetable kitchen waste and any garden waste, I have a shredder but things seem to be rather slow. How well do you compost?
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Oh I've been waiting years to asked this one on here...

You can speed it up by covering your heap to keep the rain off.
Butyl would be best and put some bricks around the edge to keep it in place. The heap will get hot when it's running properly the heat helps kills off weed seeds.

I turn our heap over once a year to make sure the 'food' gets mixed.

Try to dump from one end to the other which gives you an old 'ready part' and a new 'working part'.

You can put accelerators on which is just the bacteria and stuff that digests the waste.

Try adding a bit of soil to the layers as you pile it.

It can take a few months to get it all working but once it's started you can make savings on the bought stuff. For a wee bit of effort.

If your compost is not rotted down properly it will/may rob nitrogen from the soil you put it on but still provide vital organic fibre. When the compost is ready it will release nitrogen.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cut a load of Pyracantha down over half term and shredded it, at first it warmed up well but since I turned it and added a few gallons of stale urine it has cooled off.
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

add worms (my father in law) had a large garden so composted every thing that wasn't eaten from the garden
his heap was full of rag worms (also great bait for fishing)
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I cut a load of Pyracantha down over half term and shredded it, at first it warmed up well but since I turned it and added a few gallons of stale urine it has cooled off.


It can heat up quickly and run for a bit whilst it has easy fuel.

I think it is best to dilute the pish before hoi-ing on the heap to reduce the Nitrogen. It is Ph neutral so reall y just water and Nitrogen nothing in there to kill anything except maybe too much water.

Water content can be critical.

You have given me the notion to turn ours over tomorrow.
It is productive work as you can see last month's effort as you go.

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PostPosted: 00:41 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
add worms (my father in law) had a large garden so composted every thing that wasn't eaten from the garden
his heap was full of rag worms (also great bait for fishing)


I always thought Ragworms lived in the shoreline near the sea. Confused
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do!

Without the use of accelerators or the addition of, land based worms, your compost will take 2 years to mature!
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How stale should stale urine be? I use mine after a week and it has solids at the bottom of the bucket.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've seen/read, you also need to add 'carbon' sources to it, as well as the nitrogen rich plant matter. So cardboard, newspapers, etc..

This is not based on my experience, but Monty told me so it must be true.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
How stale should stale urine be? I use mine after a week and it has solids at the bottom of the bucket.


You can pour it on (diluted) as and when you need to.
The solids are either the makings of kidney stones/gout or you have been drinking emulsion paint. Smile
Seriously though the solids are probably clumps of bacteria living on the nutrients. Sick

If you turn the heap over and have the correct mix of stuff you can have compost ready in a couple of months. But it would need to be more of a passion to be arsed to do that.
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
From what I've seen/read, you also need to add 'carbon' sources to it, as well as the nitrogen rich plant matter. So cardboard, newspapers, etc..

This is not based on my experience, but Monty told me so it must be true.


Brown matter.

It is a bit like Quantum Physics really. Shocked
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
oldpink wrote:
add worms (my father in law) had a large garden so composted every thing that wasn't eaten from the garden
his heap was full of rag worms (also great bait for fishing)


I always thought Ragworms lived in the shoreline near the sea. Confused


I'm reliably told they were not rag worms but red worms, Red Tiger Worm (Eisenia andrei / Fetida) also called the Brandling Worm - Manure Worm.
still good for fishing bait Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, waiting for the city to start the service in my building.

In my old house, had a composter in the back yard so didn't use HM Govt's wonderful slop bucket.

Tried to put vegetable and plant waste in but it was mostly grass clippings, plus newspapers and other stuff from the previous occupants that simply had not broken down and the dates on the papers were still legible. Was delighted to find a huge ant's nest inside it one year, which had an early winter (in the form of a 'snowfall' of ant powder).

My parents obsessively separate their food waste, using a plastic bag which they dump into their slop bucket. There is nothing more pleasant than offering to help with the dishes during a visit and being made to scrape clammy, cold chunks of food into a flopping, uncooperative plastic bag Sick
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only had 1 compost bin in the past, and even at that, I only lived in the place for about 2 years.

In hot weather I could turn the compost bin twice a month, (at times more and still have a good compost layer, (just a 60 litre bin without a base though)....OK I pissed into a 2 litre bottle from time to time and poured it in to the bin when it was full), never really done compost 'heaps' etc... but interesting to know for future reference etc
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
I'm reliably told they were not rag worms but red worms, Red Tiger Worm (Eisenia andrei / Fetida) also called the Brandling Worm - Manure Worm.
still good for fishing bait Thumbs Up


These bastirts init. I was kinda-feart of them ones when we used to dig them for fishing. Well.... They look/looked dangerous. Embarassed

I thought those were wot you were bangin' on about Smile


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PostPosted: 11:41 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a composter on the go for a few years, and at 2 different houses. I kept on insisting we have one, even though the actual composting that was going on seemed pretty minimal, slow to break down, lumpy etc. I got Mr Hedgehugger to pee in it occasionally and tried turning it, to no avail.

This year though my compost has gone mad, in a good way Smile
Since I've been putting coffee grounds in there, it's become worm heaven.
It breaks down so quickly, and I end up with balls of worms everywhere.
So would definitely recommend coffee grounds as an activator, maybe worms are just caffeine freaks Smile
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedgehugger wrote:
I've had a composter on the go for a few years, and at 2 different houses. I kept on insisting we have one, even though the actual composting that was going on seemed pretty minimal, slow to break down, lumpy etc. I got Mr Hedgehugger to pee in it occasionally and tried turning it, to no avail.

This year though my compost has gone mad, in a good way Smile
Since I've been putting coffee grounds in there, it's become worm heaven.
It breaks down so quickly, and I end up with balls of worms everywhere.
So would definitely recommend coffee grounds as an activator, maybe worms are just caffeine freaks Smile


Worm balls are to small to be of any significant use in the garden unless you collect the balls of millions of worms but very cruel.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castrating worms, why didn't I see that coming?

I suppose they are little !


My chickens hoover them up if they see them Smile

The worms, that is, not their balls Smile
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: composting Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I try to compost all my vegetable kitchen waste and any garden waste, I have a shredder but things seem to be rather slow. How well do you compost?


Compost heaps need a bit of air so turn them over now and again.
A little bit of Epsom Salts can help a bit also.
Some woody material in there to hold the softer green material apart will also help.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a front 'garden' in pots and have a mini heap in a small black 'recycling' bin which I er.. recycled.

I started it back in the spring with some old, dead compacted soil and a load of pulled up weeds. Now I have some lovely sweet soil always on hand.

No kitchen scraps ever seem to make it in there..

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PostPosted: 19:34 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I use mine after a week and it has solids at the bottom of the bucket.
That's a blown head gasket that is.

[edit] Sorry wrong section.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had to stop ours after an increase in the local rat population. My terrier and Mk4 Fenn trap are doing a great job of reducing the numbers again though Cool
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your male friends to go out and piss on the compost. But never the women...

If its a wooden composter, cover it with coloured plastic during the autumn/winter periods, don't let it get any light or air...give it a feed before you do this. It will help the material break-down quicker. You can buy kits from most garden centres, and probably lots of places online. Thumbs Up

Our compost bin is a plastic container with a lid, so this works perfectly.

To give it a boost, add some compost worms, and don't over-fill it with grass clippings. Remove tea-bags from their bags and add the coffee grounds too.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
We had to stop ours after an increase in the local rat population. My terrier and Mk4 Fenn trap are doing a great job of reducing the numbers again though Cool


I just dig the dead rats in and let them rot down.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had rats in ours too. Since they got deadified the compost has improved. Maybe it's because they ate the worms? And now they're gone the worm population has exploded. So maybe my improved composting is due to no rats, rather than coffee grounds. Oooh, I prefer the coffee theory.

I actually bought a "rat-proof" base for ours. The rats just chewed through it.

I have added dead fish from the pond and a bird that flew into the window.
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