Im in the shit

[J0Al1]

I dont have an excuse for this, rules are rules and speed cameras/warnings are out there.

I have just been flashed for the 4th time in 2.5 years.

My history:
Jan 2011 - 3 points £60 (37 in a 30)
June 2013 - 3 points £60 (36 in a 30)
October 2013 - 3 points £60 (58 in a 50) This one is yet to be processed, Ive just admitted fault and await the return letter with fine!

Now, I dont actually drive that fast, I rarely go over 85 on motorways. ALL these fines are late at night when Im tired, on my way home and concerntrating on the road, NOT my speedometer. I naturally drive the roads to a sensible speed depending on traffic/condition etc... I do have my odd go fast moments, but far a few between and have never been caught for these when Im actually hitting it hard.

BUT . . . I just got flashed again aprox 47 in a 40.

It really upsets me because there are so many terrible drivers that dont look, dont see, pull out and I have avoided many a collision through opthers poor driving. My history of accidents is minimal (two minor scrapes), I have almost 12 years no claims . . . and now I think im looking at a ban.

Can I still opt for the speed awareness course on the 3rd fine? Money has not yet been sent/taken.

I'll loose my job . . . . my parents will castrate me and I wont be able to see my partner for a year (unless he visits me).

Don't really care about my job . . . . but I have loans to pay so need to keep it until thats sorted! Id have to sell my car and bike to pay my loans off.

Any advice?



Bad me . . I can only justify it with . . . I've done lots of stupid things in my life and got away with so much... so karma is upon me.

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[P.addy]

Unable to advise on speed course and stuff but it is quite humorous that you put;

[J0Al1]

Chances of an IF are low

I got flashed once about 8 years ago and send my £60 off, awaited 3 points and they sent me my cheque back and said there was a fault with the camera callibration.

Thats never gonna happen twice.

Sigh

[Raffles]

If your speedo indicated 47mph, then you will almost certainly have been travelling at a lesser speed. You may just scrape in below the penalty threshold.
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[fatpies]

Even if you get 12 points doesn't mean you will get banned...

You can plea to the magistrates that it will cause undue hardship. i.e. losing ones job/home etc.

There are people with 30+ points who don't get banned :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23967547

It does not always work though as the court might just say use the bus.
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[Sako]

Fingers crossed you don't get fucked missy.

[Pete.]

[DrSnoosnoo]

Get your tits out and say you didn't realise your car could do over 40, you thought it was limited.

Got that bird from Hollyoaks or whatever off
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[Raffles]

[J0Al1]

I know Paddy . . . . driving tired is bad news.

Im not a fast driver though, I drive to the road; whats safe, speed limits cater for a generalisation.... 40 is not always safe, so sometimes 20 is needed.

Anyway, my point is, there are far far worse crimes on the road that mostly go unpunished... this is just an easy one for the police.

Yes, I will claim that it will screw me up because it will!

Worjk . . . 'may' let me reduce my house and work from home, but they might not! new boss... not even spoken to him before.. my old boss would have tried to help.



Sit it out i guess...

Just wondering if I can change my 3rd one from paying £60/3 points to speed awareness, because that will keep me at 6 points before I then pleed 3 points an 60 to the 4th.

At the moment I have 6 points printed and paid for!

3 pending and 3 potential pending. It was onyl last night so nout in post yeat, but they are usually quick. im a professionsl....

Had only just cleared off 9 points 3 years ago.


Twerp innit.

[fatpies]

[J0Al1]

[angryjonny]

If the NIP turns up I'd recommend getting some actual real legal help, to decide the best argument to lay in front of the magistrates. Loss of your job is probably the best defence you've got. Even get your boss to testify that a ban would cost you your job, so they know you're serious.

Pepipoo should probably be your first port of call, if only to get the name of an experienced lawyer.

[Ol]

do you know anyone that would take the latest 3 point for monies ??
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[Ste]

There are many bad drivers who don't look and don't see. How did you not notice the gatso?

[J0Al1]

Actually, with my 3 pending pouints, I have not agreed to take them. I simple admitted that I was driving, I still have the chance to do the 'Speed awareness course'.

Then IF I get this 4th NIP it will make it 9.


Oh, someon at work said the camera has to flash 3 times for you to be 'caught'.

Is that right? ive only ever noticed 1 falsh on my past penalties, but this one flashed twice.

[Ste]

They flash twice as they take two photos.

[J0Al1]

[J0Al1]

[P.addy]

If the price was right some one might but thats illegal isn't it, and you wouldn't do it publicly, you'd definitely send a private message, for advice of course....

[Ste]

Maintaining a constant speed is a problem?

The Gatos you missed could have quite easily have been a sign or an OAP waiting to cross the road.

Surely if you don't look at everything then you could miss anything and not just big yellow gatso cameras?

Btw I'm bored and am being devils advocate. I think that gatso should mostly be removed,speed limits increased and a greate emphasis on police bad driving such as people not paying attention or not looking.

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[J0Al1]

I agree Ste

None of us can see everything all the time. I just dont think focusing a large majority of your attention on the speed should be the priority, it should be on the bigger picture. . . . what everyone else is doing . . . Predict situations , accomodate for others..

Having people worry about the Gatso's is in fact taking their attention off the old lady crossing the road.

I was tired last night and my attention for my own financial wellfair was out.

The one in June 2013 it was 3am and no cars on the road!

The one two weeks ago was an empty dual carriage way.

My point is there is so much bad driving and lack of general awareness or consideration for others that never gets picked up on.

[dydey90]

I'd ask for a calibration report, general rule is 10% +2, so your indicated 47mph could be as low as 41mph. Calibration drift might go in your favour.
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