train tickets

[woodall57]

they confuse me

sheffield to york 2nd class 12.50
sheffield to york 1st class 13.00



50p more to go in first class? yet if i went on a train 5 mins later it jumped up to 41 quid for a single first class and 26 second. How do they work pricing out its so weird. Im going back for 20th december so surely it would have cost more with it been closer to christmas. Its cross country too so will be a decent first class not one just with better seats lol

TL-DR

im a snob, but for an extra 50p
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[pits]

peak hours most likely, no idea I refuse to use public transport.
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[Frost]

There are peak and off peak travel times. The prices rise a fair bit during peak hours. Hence the first off peak train is usually rammed. The rest is usually worked out based on time of day, passenger numbers and distance. Also it is massively cheaper to get a return. I once got a £19.10 return, when a single was £19.00

[The Artist]

Train tickets work on the same logic as insurance prices. Pick a number between 1 and 10 and times it by how many times you farted today.

I once got a ticket from Crewe, through london including the tube, and down to near Portsmouth for £8 but to go from Milton Keynes to Euston it is £10 minimum and £25 or something for the fast train.

[N cee thirty]

could possibly be different train providers, london midland alot cheaper than virgin, yet no faster
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[Lord Percy]

Reading to Paddington.

Single is £17.20
Return is £17.10

Oh and aside from the fact that a single is only 10p cheaper than a return... Yes a 30 minute train journey does actually cost £17.

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[Lord Percy]

[BumpingUglys]

Go first class. You'll make up that 50p in free coffee and biccies in the first 2 minutes!

[Ariel Badger]

Train prices are like religion, you need a vast amount of gullibility to believe they make any kind of sense.
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[G]

Often they work on a similar basis to cheap plane tickets - the first 30% of tickets are cheap, say. Then each 10% left after that gets more expensive.
So the people that buy those last 10% are the ones subsidising everyone else.

[metalangel]

Once again this topic comes up...

Damned if I can find a £12.50 ticket for that journey on that day with any sort of return.

G is correct in that only a small number of tickets in the price bracket they like to put on their advertising are actually released for each train... often less than 10.

If I recall, Percy's fare is intended for commuters - you used to see similar fares on the Valley Lines and also on some of the local bus services. Think about it: how often do folks travel one way? Not saying they deserve to be ripped off, but...

£13.20 St Albans City to King's Cross... less than 20 minutes. £11.10 to go St Albans Abbey to Euston. 50 minutes.
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[Lord Percy]

[Ste]

Pre book everything you can, I pay £21.00 pre booking or £43 in the ticket office. And you get a seat reservation,

[keggyhander]

I've only ever caught one train and that was this year when I went to go on the telly.

7am Chesterfield to London and back, with Tube pass thrown in, for 26 quid all in, prebooked.

The train an hour later was 5 times that price.

[Derivative]

The thing that bugs me the most about train fares is the complete inability to get any long distance fare (other than a select few on the same line or whatever) for a non-joke price unless you book obscenely in advance.

Hull to Oxford, tomorrow, £101 single. It's 200 miles.
On the bike it costs me less than twenty quid. Maybe 40 if you add in all the daft costs like tyres and bits and bobs.

So you have to book in advance. You have to treat relatively small distances as 'going on holiday'.

How much does the actual journey cost? Are advance tickets loss leaders? I don't know, but I'm certain £100 has a very healthy profit margin tucked in there.

It almost seems as if the rail companies are intentionally hobbling themselves. If trains (now/tomorrow, not on 25 December 2013 at 12:35) were priced viably then I can't see how there wouldn't be a huge explosion in demand.