Council parking penalty...

[Snorty]

Thieving fuckers. Spent a night in Liverpool. Opposite the hotel there was a pay and display. I put my bike in it, but I tried to obscure it due to having no security, so I parked it right next to a wall at one end, in view of my hotel room window.

Wake up at 7:30am to go put some money on it. Go down at 11am and I've received a ticket for "not parking in a marked bay".

Well 1) I have a video of me putting the display ticket on the bike, you can't even see the bay lines for leaves everywhere, 2) I didn't want it to get robbed so wanted to hide it and 3) I paid £6 for that ticket!!!

How are my chances of appeal? This is a joke.
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[sabian92]

Where in Liverpool were you?

And you're right, they are thieving gits. Liverpool for you

[Wonko The Sane]

The signage may state that you must park in a marked bay, however you could argue that this rule is to prevent the car park being blocked up by badly parked cars - you chose to park tucked into a corner as you didn't need a full car space so felt it best to leave it available.

Could even go as far as saying you feared your bike would be knocked over during the night in a bay if someone wasn't looking properly when parking.

Pepipoo would be able to advise better.
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[wilz1234]

Maybe you did park it in a bay, and someone else moved it overnight......
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[bridgedino]

You could always appeal, argue that in the interest of proactive crime prevention you selected a safer area to park in as there was no specific bike parking available.

[cb1rocket]

Parking on the pavement is only illlegal in london.

Ask for the by laws, they can't find any and withdraw penalty notice
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[wilz1234]

[Snorty]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1461171_10153448361935332_769797186_n.jpg

The red arrow is where I was parked, behind the tree (for obvious reasons). See all the leaves? Well it was worse than that. If anything, I made it so there were more spaces available for them to charge their extortionate prices.
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[_mjs_]

There's some useful info on this link that got my mate out of a council fine issued in Leeds:

www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/parking-ticket-appeals
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[Frog]

I've not heard of anyone reasoning with them (rules are rules, and are not there to be bent, broken, or even slightly twisted )

However, if you couldn't see the lines you have no way of knowing it wasn't a valid bay, and on the road that means not enforceable (might have to be argued tho).

Never of heard of it being used, but I reckon that's your best shot.

If you can email them, mention you have a video showing the ticket being applied and the fact that, now you look at it, you can't tell that there isn't a bay there, which you presumably assumed when you parked up.

Never know, you might get lucky... Good luck
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[Raffles]

[doggone]

That streetview snap seems to have caught a likely 'parking supervisor'!

These over enthusiastic parking charges and fines are what's killing a lot of towns, I won't go to Redcar ever again after getting in a blazing row with a warden ticketing my bike for not being in a marked bay about ten years ago.
(there were no MC bays, there were none in Redcar at all then).

[cb1rocket]

I got out of a parking Penalty when I ask them to quote the law on this.

There is no law! Apart from London

https://www.confused.com/car-insurance/articles/parking-on-a-pavement-watch-out-for-new-laws
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[Rogerborg]

PePiPoo or parking-prankster.

Crib notes:
1) Do not ignore it.
2) Appeal against it. Mark it "APPEAL" in FONT OF GOD letters. Require a POPLA code.
3) Appeal on procedural grounds. POPLA are psuedo-legal spackers, they do not consider the situation, or apply common sense.

This isn't the best forum for advice though.
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