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PostPosted: 13:24 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Apprentice woes Reply with quote

Looking for some advice, on my last year aprenticeship now and finding things hard working and living with my dad. He can be overly aggressive and has alot of anger problems. Just struggling to keep ontop of all my paperwork for the course and generally being around him most days.

Pretty sure he has bipolar he can go from 0-100 in a second. Has tryed to take his life a few times now and generally breaks down to tears and goes about destroying the house and my personal belongings.

Im getting to the point where i feel i cant finish my apprenticeship with him as he is fucking my head up i cant get through the days without getting mental abuse and constant threats when all i do is help him keep his business afloat and do the majority share of keeping the house in order

Anybody had problems like this before or can offer any advice?

Im 19 years old if your wondering
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old enough to make own decision. Move out.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i could afford to i would.

Im on apprenticeship wage and if i move out that means my job will also be gone as i work with my dad.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you live and work with your life problem?!

Fuck that, find alternative employment if its really that bad and then move out Confused
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lace his tea with prozac. Should chill out in 7-14 days.

Does sound like he needs to see a doctor though. When is he most pliable? Maybe you could talk to him when he's in a good mood and try and get him to see sense.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get him sectioned?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Lace his tea with prozac. Should chill out in 7-14 days.

Does sound like he needs to see a doctor though. When is he most pliable? Maybe you could talk to him when he's in a good mood and try and get him to see sense.


He is always highly strung even when he seems to be okay. Like i said 0-100. Trying to reason doesn't work it just sets him off again. Also he doesn't seem to come back to planet earth for at least 3-4 days after anything remotely stressful.

Already tryed telling him to see a doctor, he has a drawer full of pills.. Anti depressants and pain killers.

I had to hide them a few months ago as he tryed to take a mixture of 50-60 tramadol and 40+ naproxen (500mg) both.


Im currently looking to take my apprenticeship up with somebody else.
Fingers crossed.. but also at the same time im thinking what the consequences of this all are.. Whats going to happen jf nobody is there to stop him ODing
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTC wrote:
Bubbs wrote:
Lace his tea with prozac. Should chill out in 7-14 days.

Does sound like he needs to see a doctor though. When is he most pliable? Maybe you could talk to him when he's in a good mood and try and get him to see sense.


He is always highly strung even when he seems to be okay. Like i said 0-100. Trying to reason doesn't work it just sets him off again. Also he doesn't seem to come back to planet earth for at least 3-4 days after anything remotely stressful.

Already tryed telling him to see a doctor, he has a drawer full of pills.. Anti depressants and pain killers.

I had to hide them a few months ago as he tryed to take a mixture of 50-60 tramadol and 40+ naproxen (500mg) both.


Im currently looking to take my apprenticeship up with somebody else.
Fingers crossed.. but also at the same time im thinking what the consequences of this all are.. Whats going to happen jf nobody is there to stop him ODing


He sounds like a real buzz kill.

Good old emotional blackmail is a real treat. You feel guilty about changing jobs because he will be under more stress etc.

Maybe you leaving will be good for him and he will finally admit that he needs help.

It's easy to say "just leave" but it must be really tough knowing he's capable of stupid things. Maybe you could have him committed? (not a joke) it sounds harsh but a break could really do him a lot of good. He will get the care he needs, and the time he needs to chill out.

He's put you in a very unfair position. He sounds like the child and you the father.... that's pretty fucked up. It's not your job to sort his life out.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twat him over the head with brick
Put him at the bottom of a ladder
Take over family business
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The unfortunate reality is that either he seeks help and sorts himself out, or he'll just carry on. You won't really influence that without moving on yourself.
My mates dad was/kinda still is an alcoholic fck up. Mate has tried sorting him out, helping him out countless times since he was 18, 20 years ago.
My mate has got his own kids now and doesn't see a lot of his dad, he really distanced himself after the old man took out a load of credit cards in his name and ran up £20k of debt. Guess who paid it off. Hint - it wasn't the alcoholic dad.
Strangely after that, when it was made clear that all future emotional blackmail would not be played to, the dad started to sort himself out. It's almost like he realised he was on his own and no one was going to take his sht any more.

Focus on your life going forward - be a decent person, but don't get sucked in. If only it was that easy eh?!
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTC wrote:
Whats going to happen jf nobody is there to stop him ODing

You inherit the house and business. I'm not really seeing the problem.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate all the help. Yes it most definitely is emotional blackmail.. Getting told "you dont care, you have no idea" really gets me down as all i do is do for the man woth no appreciation at all..

For christ sake he actually earns more money with me helping him.. He has a grant for my wages and ontop of that charges me out to the customer!

I think im going to try and stick it through this last year and move away from it all as il be fully qualified in my trade..
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:18 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long is left on the apprenticeship? Is it the full year or just a few months? Hard as it might be, you really need to try to stick this out. I don't know if an apprenticeship is transferable, but I know you only get one so if you do leave and end up having to start again, nobody will take you on.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. It really does sound like you need to seek help for him or for yourself (or both).

You could contact the council to see whether they can help with accommodation. You're young and still in training, as well as being at risk from the person you would otherwise be forced to live with - they might treat you as a semi-priority. It's worth a try - they can only say no.

It might also be worth contacting Shelter - you're not homeless, but they might be able to help or provide advice, seeing as you are at risk.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
How long is left on the apprenticeship? Is it the full year or just a few months? Hard as it might be, you really need to try to stick this out. I don't know if an apprenticeship is transferable, but I know you only get one so if you do leave and end up having to start again, nobody will take you on.


Not strictly true. Can only do one of the same apprenticeship eg one level 2 in me mechanics.

There's a lot of help for young people who are in hostile home conditions. By speaking to your local council they can put you in touch with halfway houses as explained.

Do I read it right you work for your dad? That may be tricky sticking your apprenticeship out.

Good luck
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mention of your mum in this? Is she single? Is she fit? Photos?

oh... sorry for your situation.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

After trying to talk it out yesterday he has told me to fuck off and leave.

Now heading to college to see what tutors can do regarding aprenticeship. Hopefully the last 2 years of hard graft and late night studying wasnt for nothing!
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTC wrote:
After trying to talk it out yesterday he has told me to fuck off and leave.

Now heading to college to see what tutors can do regarding aprenticeship. Hopefully the last 2 years of hard graft and late night studying wasnt for nothing!


You have options though... couldn't you complete the last year after a break? I'm sure you can.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:14 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTC wrote:
After trying to talk it out yesterday he has told me to fuck off and leave.

Now heading to college to see what tutors can do regarding aprenticeship. Hopefully the last 2 years of hard graft and late night studying wasnt for nothing!


That went well then Shocked he sounds like a nice chap. You're definitely better off out of it imo. What's the apprenticeship in if you don't mind me asking?
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:44 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has he sacked you then? Get your tribunal lined up pronto, hopefully the stress will kill him.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear of this sounds like one Jeremy Hunt of a situation.

Make him an appointment at his GP tell him to meet you there, if he doesn't turn up go and speak to the doctor yourself, explain the situation; you fear for his life and mental well being Thumbs Up
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