I Failed My Mod 1 - Speed trap / Emergency brake

[Az]

No rider faults (no minors) and everything was going all well until... on the emergency brake- was entering the speed trap so i looked down to make sure i was doing 32mph at the speed trap, looked up saw the examiner with his hand up instructing me to emergency brake, i panicked hit the back brake to hard, locking up the back wheel which resulted in an instant fail.

So annoyed, really wanted to pass first time and be on the road on a bigger bike asap. Really enjoyed my training and my time on the mt-03 (plan on getting an SV650 though), just a shame every thing's now delayed by a week!

[sidewinder]

Bad luck buddy.next time floor the thing in 2nd and don't look down just count this a test run and everything will be good..

[Rogerborg]

[Fladdem]

Unlucky, same thing happened to my mate. He borrowed a CBF125.

I nearly did it but I had been ragging the Varadero around for a year, so I was pretty comfortable with it when it came to test time, which is why I personally don't like the idea of borrowing a bike.

I went without training, just watched videos on youtube and practised in sainsburys car park with my dad when it got dark and until the police came.

I remember it was absolutely pissing it down adn they were going to cancel my mod 1 and I begged the giant, he was about 6ft8, and he said "OK, don't crash though" I hit the speed trap at 38mph, I took the corner in third and slipped the clutch a bit to get the engine spinning as I left, the bloke seemed impressed with my bike skill, he even commented on my mod 2 when I managed to balance it for a few seconds t a roundabout.

Sorry I'm now talking about my test!

I imagine you shouldn't get it wrong a second time Like someone else said use it as an experience.
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[FriendlyEllis]

Your front brake will do almost all of the stopping.

Next time 'pretend' to also use the back brake just for show.
With no weight on it under heavy breaking it can easily skid.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

So things have changed since back in the day then?

It used to be the case that,if you skid during the test on an emergency brake (I did my test in 1992) so long as you were able to control it (preferably by releasing and re-aplying the brake) that was fine.

If anything, it shows that you have better awareness and control of a bike because the rear is so prone to skidding that you expect it to do so in an emergency and are prepared for it.

This test is just shows if you are capable of putting your right foot just above your pedal to make it look like you were using the rear brake. It has no other purpose.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

The mt-03 we had was piss easy to lock up compared to the cbf600. Funny bike that big single. Stock cans sounded kind of broken somehow.
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[Az]

[Az]

Mod1's rebooked back in for the 25th (monday)!
Hopefully i'll get it right this time and check my speed well before the speed trap and try and hit 32mph as soon as possible and hold it. Allowing me to concentrate on my emergency brake instead of speed.

[Khanivore]

All my practice runs saw me skidding down the track. As per what others have said, on the test I did the following and it worked:

1) I did not let my left hand hover over the clutch. It's fine to stall - i found that when i hovered over the clutch i was pulling it too soon and this makes skidding more likely.

2) I used JUST the front brake to stop and just pretended to use the rear. No skid.

3) They allow a much longer distance to stop than you might expect i think. I was trying too hard for the perfect stop in my practice runs.

Chin up - you will nail it next time!

[Az]

Thanks for all the advice guys, you all seem to say the same thing (including my instructor), so im not going to apply any pressure at all to the rear brake, just keep my foot above it and use the front brake

[Az]

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

I liked it when I was on it - always blipping it. But off it...not so much.

Iirc, I read one review that likened it to the sound of a ball baring rattling around in an empty can - and thought it was fairly apt.
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[adam277]

If you can find somewhere safe to practice before hand do so.

I have my Mod 2 resit on the 25th as well. Supposedly the weather will be shit. Good luck.....

[Az]

[Az]

[Fladdem]

[stevelup]

[AyrshireBiker]

Now in the DSA the DE's are not really interested in what brakes you use. They are more interested in the overall stopping distance / control of the emergency stop. So, don't even bother putting your foot on the back brake if you don't intend to use it. If you just want to use the front, then do it.

I believe this is due to more and more bikes having linked brakes etc.

[jeddy11]

I was on the understanding that a brake lock up is not an instant fail ??? if you can release the lock and reapply the brakes its a controlled stop none the less !! A lot to do under test conditions though..

As above don't use the rear brake but if you do and it locks just release..
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