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James83
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Could this be made road legal for a resonable amount? Reply with quote

Came across this in an action: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB250N-Superdream-WHOLE-BIKE-SPARES-project-wheels-engine-forks-bars-/221317216683?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&clk_rvr_id=550676474359

Now, I have 2 reasons for being interested in this: 1, I have a hankering to do a full strip down and rebuild of a bike. I've never done it before and I think it would be a great way to learn - I was actually hunting for a basic engine to strip and rebuild when I found this.

2, I would like a "backup" bike, for when its snows, or my bike breaks down, lend to friends to train on, shit like that.

So the question is, what will it cost to get it to a road legal state (Best guess) and what does an 80s CB250 go for in the south? I'm not looking to turn a profit, but while I dn't want to go out and just buy a working one, I don't want to spend significantly more than I could simply buy one for. Thoughts? Comments? Insults?
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

daytime MOT Smile

just get brake light working, horn

stick some gaitors on the forks (if they are leaking)

more than likely tyres an your rocking n rolling
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minimum £1000.

Tyres alone would cost 200 unless you are happy to fit shite or 2nd hand.

Cosmetics mean nothing to road legal and you can spend as much as you have in the bank on that.
Budget £400+ to repaint. It will involve stripping the frame bare (every nut and bolt removed) everything washed/degreased and then any repairs done to frame etc. Filling and priming then top coat and lacquer.


Mechanically ???? Fcuk Nose what is inside that lump between the wheels and frame. Could be £500 to do that too.

Chain and sprockets min £120

It all adds up but it easily well do-able as it is not such an ancient machine and you can find parts quite easily.

It is up to your patience and pocket. Smile

For my money, I would find a more desirable bike to faun over. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could easily sink £500 into that and end up with a ratty, unreliable, boring bike. One to buy if you have a superdream and want a stock of parts, or maybe worth buying to break.

To get it roadworthy you would need:

Carbs
Fuel tank
Both tyres
Shocks
Numerous bearings and seals
Numerous nuts and bolts
Clocks
Plastics
Battery
Headlight inner
Chain
Numberplate

You may also need:

Exhaust
Cables
Electrical parts
Engine
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one of those from brand-new when I was 17 and bent at least one valve on it getting away from a truck I pulled out on.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the input guys, will give it a miss in that case.

As Walloper said, while I may well end up paying a bit more for a bike that I've done up myself, I wouldn't do it for something boring like the superdream. Will continue hunting.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO V5c
No reg no

That could be fun if it still on DVLA records 25 + agro
if not you be mucking about for ages
Nightmare reported stolen

Not a gamble I would take get something with the right paperwork

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus Christ no. You'd be better off with something like this:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/kawasaki/1037863452#photo-content
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Jesus Christ no. You'd be better off with something like this:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/kawasaki/1037863452#photo-content


"THE BRAKES AND CHAIN ARE STIFF"

Like my knob when I saw it for <£500

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PostPosted: 11:33 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

16k miles, spend a couple of hundred and a weekend or two and you got yourself a nice work hack.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Could this be made road legal for a resonable amount? Reply with quote

James83 wrote:


This is not a motorcycle. It is a mud-anchor.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: wet dream Reply with quote

:D in your dreams..........

for £15 then i suppose so as it might be worth more in spares..;.....

slow, releiable ( really?? ) and a bot boring.......but yor riding technique will improve as an overtake is planned miles ahead!!

is there a v5??

how is the swing arm and rear arms on the frame.......these rot as well as the seat base, tank etc etc etc..........

engines have family faults like buggered heads, cams, rockers, ign systems, but it is a kick start one.

if you just wanted a hack and not bothered about chrome, or the lack of it, then possibily its a goer...........

you will need to consider stuff like tyres and wheel bearings, brakes, battery, lights, seat, wiring etc as well as engine.

it may be worth a £20 note, or break for spares.

however, if the corrosion didnt stop it from passing an mot, and the engine was ok apart from a ( our farther ) good service, tyres can be got for about £80 a pair..........

horses for courses, if done up on a budget ( like hand painted hammerite etc ) with second hand parts that are missing.......and you get ity cheap, it may be a good learning project....it all hangs on the camshaft/head/valve seats/crankshaft/ balance shaft etc etc etc ............

there seems to be a following for these bikes....dont know why!
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: wet dream Reply with quote

bikenut wrote:
Very Happy in your dreams.......... Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....Bla....

there seems to be a following for these bikes....dont know why!


Apparently there isn't now, as the OP says, 'he isn't going to bother his arse bidding on it now'. The person who biddededed the 14 quid is the only follower now it seems.
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PostPosted: 03:23 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kin'ell that's worth £15 scrap! If you wanted a project then at least get something that's got a bit of a chance! Mate of mine bought a 1914 war department dispatch bike that had less wrong with it and that ain't run for 50 years! Buy yourself a cheapy Chinese 125 that's 2 yrs old and in similar condition for £100 and rebuild that! At least the parts are cheap and available! Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 04:08 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reverse comstar wheels are worth an easy 40 quid a throw regardless of condition, the rest of the bike is crap including the earlier 5 speed non superdream CB 250T engine.
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PostPosted: 06:02 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Jesus Christ no. You'd be better off with something like this:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/kawasaki/1037863452#photo-content


Now that's more like it. The brakes are binding and the chain probably needs replacing, undoubtedly it needs a new battery too. But for £500 it sounds like a bargain. MY one reservation is that the seller may be a trader or he may have already looked into fixing the bike up and thought "nah, it's a moneypit". Still, well worth a look.
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PostPosted: 06:08 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back-street Arfur-Daley type I'd say. I don't think they have been messing with it, probably dragged it out of some garage clearance and looking to turn a quick few hundred. if i was looking for a winter bike I'd give it a look.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
daytime MOT Smile

just get brake light working, horn

stick some gaitors on the forks (if they are leaking)

more than likely tyres an your rocking n rolling



Having a brakelight on a daytime MOT will score you a fail.

I took my CG for its daytime.test and the bloke went to wheel it in for test. He came back into the shop and handed me.some.electrical tape and said "if you want it to.pass you'd best tape that light up, its every single.light working or absolutely all of them gone.




OP, find a cheap CG125. It'll cost less, be more reliable, and do the job equally well. I have a 1990 with over 42,000 miles and it runs nicely. Just need to replace the base gasket and put new exhaust studs on it.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Might be a fair bit that could be used as spares for another bike, but way too much missing there that would need to be sourced to get it into a worthwhile condition.

In addition, the reverse rim comstars were fitted to late Superdreams and the engine is from an early one. Add some of the odd bits missing (rear pegs?) and my guess is that it was one used for spare parts and most things usable have already been nabbed, or swapped for scrap items.

SteveZZR wrote:

Having a brakelight on a daytime MOT will score you a fail.

I took my CG for its daytime.test and the bloke went to wheel it in for test. He came back into the shop and handed me.some.electrical tape and said "if you want it to.pass you'd best tape that light up, its every single.light working or absolutely all of them gone.


It shouldn't fail for a brake light. A rear position light renders the rest compulsory but a rear brake light is not a rear position light so should be MOTable.

However if the rear brake light is just the rear light with the tail light disconnected then it would probably be treated as being a non working rear position light; so a fail for it not working and a fail for it being there but the rest of the lights missing.

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:01 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup...no lights at all on my KDX just a 9v horn
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