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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Hi Everyone! Reply with quote

Hi All,
I'm new to biking and loving it so far, 53 years young, just passed my Mod 1 today at the 2nd attempt, dropped it on the U turn first time Embarassed but buzzing big time after nailing it today, just the Mod 2 to go and that's me sorted, thinking of a Bonnie T100 as a first bike, already got my café racer jacket sorted.... lots of great info and help on here, but I didn't want to join till I got the bloomin Mod 1 out the way in case I jinxed myself Very Happy

Is the Bonnie a good choice for a late biker like myself?

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PostPosted: 16:04 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, and good luck with the Mod2 Thumbs Up

If it's that style of bike that you are after then a T100 is a solid choice, albeit a bit underpowered.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dr Monkeyjoe!

There are plenty of happy T100 owners out there, you're not going to go far wrong. It'll need a bit of cleaning, but that's a positive for some owners.Wink

We were just talking about the Kawasaki W800 as an alternative, it's one to bear in mind.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For someone like yourself (and to be honest someone like myself) a bike is nothing more than an expensive toy. You'll get wet in the rain on all of them, so buy the one you want.

I'd advise you have a sit on a few bikes though, just to make sure you're comfy. I fell in love with the R1 but bought an almost-but-not-quite-as-sexy-in-my-opinion FZ1 because I prefer the riding position.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The W800 got a slightly better review in Ride Magazine than the T100, though there wasn't much in it. For my money the W800 looks slightly more authentic as a retro.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the welcome and info guys... yeah, I've been reading up loads on the Bonnie and W800, both very similar, although the kwaki's back drum brakes are pretty lame seemingly according to some reviews, and no engine growl....although I have to admit it looks great, and there's one in a local dealer I'll have a test run on when I get my Mod 2. Very Happy

I tend to lean towards the Bonnie at the moment though, as it's a Triumph, and has been a dream of mine for a long time to ride and hear a Bonnie below me! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, sounds like a box of Kleenex down the Y fronts might be a wise precaution.
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 04:53 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Lol, sounds like a box of Kleenex down the Y fronts might be a wise precaution.


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PostPosted: 05:43 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeyjoe wrote:
Thanks for the welcome and info guys... yeah, I've been reading up loads on the Bonnie and W800, both very similar, although the kwaki's back drum brakes are pretty lame seemingly according to some reviews, and no engine growl....although I have to admit it looks great, and there's one in a local dealer I'll have a test run on when I get my Mod 2. Very Happy

I tend to lean towards the Bonnie at the moment though, as it's a Triumph, and has been a dream of mine for a long time to ride and hear a Bonnie below me! Very Happy


Tbh, the kwakker is arguably the better bike. However, you are bang on RE the noise. They fucking suck for that. Worse still, iirc, the W has a one piece exhaust system - the twin pipes are joined just south of the centre stand (and that join is hollow).

By comparison it's much, much easier and cheaper to mod the cans on a strumpet.

Damn it kawasaki, couldn't you anticipate people wanting to free up some thunder from that pathetically ghey-assed stock crap. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mod 2 is easier than mod 1 so long as you relax and focus.
Remember the examiner wants you to pass.

Why not go to the motor cycle live show at the NEC this weekend and window shop / daydream?

Triumph are there too Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Monkeyjoe wrote:
Thanks for the welcome and info guys... yeah, I've been reading up loads on the Bonnie and W800, both very similar, although the kwaki's back drum brakes are pretty lame seemingly according to some reviews, and no engine growl....although I have to admit it looks great, and there's one in a local dealer I'll have a test run on when I get my Mod 2. Very Happy

I tend to lean towards the Bonnie at the moment though, as it's a Triumph, and has been a dream of mine for a long time to ride and hear a Bonnie below me! Very Happy


Tbh, the kwakker is arguably the better bike. However, you are bang on RE the noise. They fucking suck for that. Worse still, iirc, the W has a one piece exhaust system - the twin pipes are joined just south of the centre stand (and that join is hollow).

By comparison it's much, much easier and cheaper to mod the cans on a strumpet.

Damn it kawasaki, couldn't you anticipate people wanting to free up some thunder from that pathetically ghey-assed stock crap. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


I didn't know that about the exhaust, it's a cool looking bike definitely, but if it sounds like a purring pussy it's not for me, I want a roar! Let the neighbours know I'm coming up the street Laughing
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FriendlyEllis wrote:
The mod 2 is easier than mod 1 so long as you relax and focus.
Remember the examiner wants you to pass.

Why not go to the motor cycle live show at the NEC this weekend and window shop / daydream?

Triumph are there too Very Happy


Cheers buddy, yeh I feel more relaxed out on the road, the slow riding, balance and confidence was the problem for me in the Mod 1, which surprised me, I'm usually pretty confident about things, but after loads of practice, the penny dropped, and suddenly it felt quite easy and comfortable... Looking forward to passing the Mod 2 and going bike hunting Very Happy
The NEC sounds great but I'm up in Scotland, in Ayrshire so too far for me to travel this weekend but I'll make it down there sometime, my wife comes from that area so we usually pop down at least once a year. Smile
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod 2 is indeed just a ride out. It doesn't matter where you go (even on the independent ride) as long as you go there safely and confidently.

Possibly not what you're looking for, but have you considered the Honda VT750S? Bit of a lardy lump, might be too cruiserish.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhausts are replaceable. However, a 360-degree twin does sound (and ride) more nicely than a 180 degree twin, in my opinion. If you've got the cash to throw at it, then get what your loins tell you is the bike you want.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
Exhausts are replaceable.


Word. But for the W's you'll need almost a grand.


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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Mod 2 is indeed just a ride out. It doesn't matter where you go (even on the independent ride) as long as you go there safely and confidently.

Possibly not what you're looking for, but have you considered the Honda VT750S? Bit of a lardy lump, might be too cruiserish.


Yeah that's what I thought, as a few people have told me, and as I've read on here, Mod 1, is the bit most people are glad to get out of the way Smile
That's certainly a nice looking bike, nice price too, there's a new Harley 750 coming to these shores next year I think, classics or cruisers, that's what floats my boat, I sat on a new triumph America a couple of weeks ago, nice low seat height, feet flat on the ground, but it think a classic will be my first bike, probably 2nd hand, budgeting around 5 grand...
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mate... seems I may be down your way!

The Bonnie is a good choice as is the W800. Defo throw your leg over a few bikes... often the feeling - the seating position etc will sway your decision more than the looks.

Your budget looks spot on.. tbh at this time of year you will be able to pick up a Bonnie for about a grand less than where you are at. By the nature of the bike they are normally well looked after / serviced etc. A brand new W800 is on the books for about 6 grand.

But good luck with your mod 2. Keep us posted. Are u going to Ayr? Glasgow? I sat my test in Ayr... the examiners in both centre's seem fine. I have mates who have been to both centres.
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AyrshireBiker wrote:
Hello mate... seems I may be down your way!

The Bonnie is a good choice as is the W800. Defo throw your leg over a few bikes... often the feeling - the seating position etc will sway your decision more than the looks.

Your budget looks spot on.. tbh at this time of year you will be able to pick up a Bonnie for about a grand less than where you are at. By the nature of the bike they are normally well looked after / serviced etc. A brand new W800 is on the books for about 6 grand.

But good luck with your mod 2. Keep us posted. Are u going to Ayr? Glasgow? I sat my test in Ayr... the examiners in both centre's seem fine. I have mates who have been to both centres.


Hi Bud,
Nice to see a fellow Ayrshire biker Smile I'll be taking my test in Ayr, learning with Pegasus, really good instructor's there... must be to get me through the Mod1! Laughing good crack also... I'm pretty confident about the mod2, hopefully pass it 1st time, and then start looking for a bike, there's a W800 in North Harbour, been in had a look, and I also went up to Renfrew a couple of weeks ago and sat on a beautiful T100 there, felt good! even the wife popped on the pillion!
Just wondering though about test driving bikes? I just arrange an appointment, turn up with my gear and ride? also what about 2nd hand, a lot of the bikes I've been looking at online are down south, preston etc... if I like it should I ride it back up the M6? with my limited experience, maybe not such a good idea, I've loads of experience with cars, (or big steel horrible cages as my instructor calls them Very Happy )but new to bikes, just wondering how people go about it, and what am I looking for? how do I tell if a bike is ok or not... Confused sure I'll get the hang of it though...
As long as I'm good to go around springtime I'll be happy, and yep, I'll keep you posted! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeyjoe wrote:

Just wondering though about test driving bikes? I just arrange an appointment, turn up with my gear and ride? also what about 2nd hand, a lot of the bikes I've been looking at online are down south, preston etc... if I like it should I ride it back up the M6? with my limited experience, maybe not such a good idea, I've loads of experience with cars, (or big steel horrible cages as my instructor calls them Very Happy )but new to bikes, just wondering how people go about it, and what am I looking for? how do I tell if a bike is ok or not... Confused sure I'll get the hang of it though...
As long as I'm good to go around springtime I'll be happy, and yep, I'll keep you posted! Very Happy


Test ride at a dealer... Give them a call to arrange a time then turn up with your gear and licence. They take your details and off you go. Try not to bend it while you are out.

Private sale... Some people will let you test ride their bike (maybe if you leave them holding a wad of cash), some won't. I've looked at bikes privately and the owner has taken me for a blast as a pillion.

If you don't want to ride it back you can hire a van or get it delivered. Lots of bike delivery firms out there. I reckon with your budget and type of bike you will end up buying from a dealer anyway. They can arrange delivery if you want and you will have some comeback if things go wrong.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Test ride at a dealer... Give them a call to arrange a time then turn up with your gear and licence. They take your details and off you go. Try not to bend it while you are out.

Private sale... Some people will let you test ride their bike (maybe if you leave them holding a wad of cash), some won't. I've looked at bikes privately and the owner has taken me for a blast as a pillion.

If you don't want to ride it back you can hire a van or get it delivered. Lots of bike delivery firms out there. I reckon with your budget and type of bike you will end up buying from a dealer anyway. They can arrange delivery if you want and you will have some comeback if things go wrong.


Good advice mate, thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Joe. Thumbs Up

I'd start with a bike you can afford to lose; spend a year riding something cheap and cheerful, drop it a couple of times and think "whoops, oh well, no harm done" and then when you've gained enough experience splash out on the Bonnie.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
...the W800 looks slightly more authentic as a retro.


This ^^^

I quite fancied one myself, but soon realised that I'd be just as cramped as on a retro sports bike. I gave up that riding style a few years ago. Okay if you are short legged and not aching from body-blues. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 01 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridden both the Bonny and the W800 and both are nice enough bikes (if not my cup of tea).

IMO the Bonnie is the better engine. The Kwak the more realistic retro. Anyone knowing anything about bikes will recognise a Hinkley Bonny. They wont be so sure about a W800.

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 01 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the helpful info guys... Still swinging towards the Bonnie... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 01 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi monkey joe welcome in Thumbs Up

I say if the Bonnie is your dream.then live your dream and buy it Very Happy

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