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SQL
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will probably find that qualifications will mean fuck all mate, you just need to get a break and do i, start off at your place doing the odd mech bit, then get some experience.

Experience talks in the real world, qualifications look good on paper.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how interested you are.

You can get qualified in what you like, but that doesn't mean you'll get the break you need. That said, if mechanics interests you enough, you might want to learn something regardless (then any future break you get would be a bonus).

Think about the odds of it working, and your interest in the subject then balance with what you have lost if you don't get the break.

In the meantime, phone whichever college(s) you are looking at for info (course availability, costs, likely timetables, things you'll need etc etc) and weigh it all up.

Home learning is hard (very easy to keep putting things off when life gets in the way), takes a lot more discipline than turning up at college once (or twice) a week.

Longer courses leave you knackered (I did a 4.5 year night course, 1 night a week whilst working full time) at the end.

Can still be very worth it if you are properly interested though, and you'll also be more confident in whatever skills you pick up which will have uses outside any potential work.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:

Experience talks in the real world, qualifications look good on paper.



Mostly except you need a combination of both, there are also certain traps which many fall into.

Get qualifications, yet have no experience, rather common with quite a lot of graduates who do not look far enough ahead.

Or have experience but no qualifications. A lot of older learned on the job types are screwed by this.

However even if you have piles of both only increases your chances of a job. As the bad economy means that employers can pick who they want.

But the degree and higher is useful to work outside the UK.


There are even bigger traps, such as having plenty of experience but it is not quite the same kind as what is required. Or having plenty of experience in something which is soon to be obsolete. Or thinking that just because you've worked somewhere for ages you actually have useful and relevant experience. Government employees are particularly prone to such traps.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Getting educated. Reply with quote

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College seems ideal for the short term, but long term A levels and uni engineering qualifications would be better, and A levels are doable from home on distance learning meaning i'd not have any issues with work. So theoreticly more practical too. But then I understand nothing of UCAS applications, points etc. Research required.

Could anyone offer any pointers? Just realy do feel like I want to learn new things & have a potentially brighter future rather than punching numbers into a computer/stacking shelves Neutral



Be very wary of colleges. A lot of them do not have your best interests at heart.

In essence the Wolf Report pretty much slammed the college vocational education system for many failings. That simply courses would teach learners junk courses which were 20 years out of date. This was to farm grades and therefore farm funding.

There have been some changes since 2011 though. Just be careful ask many questions and check with people who are in their know who have no ulterior motives. The staff at college open days are looking for THEIR jobs and therefore will tell you what you want to hear.

Distance courses require immense discipline and you should develop a regular routine as such courses are incredibly easy to bunk off on as exam/course work dates seem years away. Which is why the failure rate is high on many distance courses.

While a teacher well my cohort will happily crack the whip at you (because of performance related pay).
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dealer trained mechanics are always highly thought of. A levels mean fuck all on your uni applications i am assuming they mean the same everywhere else lol.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take this with a pinch of salt as i have fuck all idea about motorsport and mechanics industry so it may be redundant advice.

If you are interested in going into uni though, first thing to be aware of is a lot of them don't consider old gcse's relevant after 3 years [gcse's are a joke essentially] so you may be required to study a similar level course in maths/english/science for example to meet the uni/course requirements.

Good way around this particularly if you don't have many or sufficient a-levels for your course is an access course. Its done at college usually over a year, 'fulltime' but you could do some part time work if you can commit a decent chunk of your spare time to it. They comprise of 4 self picked subject modules, a bit like mini a-levels you could say [plus additional maths and english gcse if required]. This again though is were you may have some issue - i don't know if there are enough mechanic-relevant modules available within access courses for them to be as helpful as they are with other courses.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 02 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Getting educated. Reply with quote

Have you checked exactly what is needed for your Uni qualification?

When I've looked before, despite only having 6 GCSEs, I'm confident I could get myself on to a masters course with 'industry experience' (and the relevant fee, of course Smile ).

If you want to learn skills more than you want to get a bit of paper, I'd also look to that.
University courses, especially gard seem to be generally more focused on that bit of paper.

I have happily conversed with various recent graduates on their subject from my own research in to the area. Sure, I don't have the breadth of knowledge - but I haven't spend the three years learning.
I did my mum's "programming project" for her (business) IT masters when I was 11 from having (mostly) taught myself programming.
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