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Sid_The_Sloth
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Best way of dealing with swingarm rust Reply with quote

My Shadow was new in June, and using FS365 has done bugger all for it's rust protection and as a result the shoddy work of honda is showing through on the swingarm.
I'm going to pick up some rust remover tomorrow. What's the best way to paint it after this? I know Hammerite would do the job well, but painting this on with a brush would look horrible compared to the rest of the paint.
Powdercoating would be great, but expensive I'm guessing.
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible to get hammerite on pretty smooth - it's partly down to having a fairly decent brush, careful prep and...erm...luck. Is yours the phantom with the stacked pipes? Cos I wouldn't have thought the swing arm is that visible, is it? Doubt whether it would be that noticeable once painted. But - more pertinently - isn't it under warranty if it was new in June? Or did you mean it was just new to you.
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
It's possible to get hammerite on pretty smooth - it's partly down to having a fairly decent brush, careful prep and...erm...luck. Is yours the phantom with the stacked pipes? Cos I wouldn't have thought the swing arm is that visible, is it? Doubt whether it would be that noticeable once painted. But - more pertinently - isn't it under warranty if it was new in June? Or did you mean it was just new to you.


This ⬆ .....warranty?
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Acf50 once you have got it sorted. Vaslty better than FS365 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's rusted in 6 months, what will it look like after 2 years when your warranty has run out?

That'd be worth a trip to the dealer or a call or Honda UK. They'll probably be relieved that it's not another CBF125. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I took my swingarm off on both bikes and used a wire brush on a drill to remove all shit and loose bits (after removing the chain guide and bushes), wiped down with white spirit then where there was surface rust I used jenolite acid till it was gone. Give it another clean then about 4 coats red oxide primer, when dry I put a few coats of stone chip underseal then when that's dry a few coats of semi gloss rattlecan.
leave for a day or two in the warm then remount chain guides and swingarm bushes, mount and your done.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If it's rusted in 6 months, what will it look like after 2 years when your warranty has run out?

That'd be worth a trip to the dealer or a call or Honda UK. They'll probably be relieved that it's not another CBF125. Wink

It is indeed under warranty, but I didn't think this would be covered in it as they'll just claim wear and tear through winter?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't know that until you go and speak to the dealers about it. If you get no joy with them then speak to Honda UK.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's barely winter!

See what they can do, I wouldn't expect rust anywhere in just 6 months!
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
You don't know that until you go and speak to the dealers about it. If you get no joy with them then speak to Honda UK.


Called Honda UK this morning, and was told that corrosion is a manufactures warranty issue so I've been advised to go into my nearest dealer and they should sort it.
Would it likely be a powdercoating job they'll do rather than replacing?
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shall post later
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if you've seen my post about my brand new CBF which had rust problems from before I even took it out of the dealership.

( Link if you have a spare 10 mins to scour the 3 pages - https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=281543&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

Which dealer did you get your bike from out of interest ?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah DJ I was reading that earlier, ridiculous likes. Think you're must have been sitting for a while before you buying it. I'm with the masses on your situation and think you should reject it.

But here's a couple of pics of mine, taken in the complete darkness and without a macro lens so not focused amazingly
Firstly here's my left rear shock
https://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj193/craig_mccann/DSC_0004_zpsbcd56fe2.jpg

And here's the swingarm, I've drawn round the 2 patches here
https://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj193/craig_mccann/798196f1-ba89-4da7-a066-02e71a5b7547_zps768a8d73.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH that is nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be!

Think you could spray some ACF50 on it and get on with life...

Was expecting more along the lines of:

https://www.st-1100.com/images/Rusty.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na I know its nothing horrific but it has to start somewhere and if the paint is thin enough there to do this so early what's it gonna be like in a few more months?
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid_The_Sloth wrote:
Na I know its nothing horrific but it has to start somewhere and if the paint is thin enough there to do this so early what's it gonna be like in a few more?


Agreed Thumbs Up you purchased a new bike and it shouldn't be rusting already. Take it to the dealers and have a chat before you do anything with it.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 05 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah gonna leave it for now. Giving in with Fs365 and moved to ACF50 today. Shall pop to the dealers soon as I have some time
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 06 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took it to Twowheels Edinburgh today, where I got the bike. To quote the lad there he said "We don't mind doing the work if onda send us the parts. I'll send these pics to Honda and see what they say, but I'm doubtful they'll do anything about it. If they don't then get on at them with complaints."

So already proving to be better than Mr Devine in Glasgow. SHal find out next week what they say.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda have agreed that they are happy to replace the swingarm and both rear shocks Smile stepping up.
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid_The_Sloth wrote:
Honda have agreed that they are happy to replace the swingarm and both rear shocks Smile stepping up.

Honda probably don't want anymore bad publicity about their rusty bikes. It's good to see them sorting this out without any fuss. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid_The_Sloth wrote:
Honda have agreed that they are happy to replace the swingarm and both rear shocks Smile stepping up.


Great news Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm glad it didn't take another premium rate phone call in a mobile to complain ha.
Happy with the level of service from Twowheels Edinburgh too.
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