Unlit keep left signs!

[Flatbadger]

Brighton Road on the A259 is 2 miles of straight flat boringness, and I found myself behind a 25mph car. There's keep left signs all the way along and you have to be nippy to get past most of the time.

Coming back home at 5:30 it was dark, so imagine my surprise when I happened upon an unlit sign on a traffic island whilst still just alongside.

I don't know how I avoided the car as I did a leftward bit of last second avoidance, it was sphincter-loosening stuff.

But I got to thinking, if I'd hit the island (or the car come to that) what culpability would the council* have?

*Or whoever
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[stinkwheel]

I think the council would have, with a certain degree of justification, claimed off your insurance for a new keep-left sign.

If you couldn't see far enough ahead to see a traffic island with a keep left sign on it, lit or unlit, I'd suggest you should not have gone for the overtake.
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[Flatbadger]

You've a point, but this particular sign (and others along there I noticed) are withered remnants, with all too solid islands underneath.

It's dangerous because people expect them lit and visible, I won't be now
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[yen_powell]

If the keep left sign/bollard is within 50 metres of an electrically lit street light which forms part of a system of street lighting not more than 183 metres apart then it should have been in lighting.

If it's not within 50 metres of a LC then it should be reflectorised to show up properly in your headlights.
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[Flatbadger]

I'm not likely to be running up there with a tape measure but in any case that's handy to know..

As well as knowing the darn things don't necessarily have either sometimes
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[yen_powell]

I used to do a night time street light scout in the 90s. It was stopped to save paying me and my colleagues the over time (it wasn't our main job). That lasted for about 12 weeks and then some top chap drove into a central island with no KLB on it and wrote his car off.

The insurance company asked to see the scout records and my employer had to tell them they had stopped the scouts. The bloke got his payout with no fight from the street lighting authority, my over time was reinstated instantly.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

Sounds like a dangerous overtake to me. You clearly didn't have sufficient awareness of what was ahead of you, else you would have seen the car coming. You're supposed to be on the left, you weren't, so it would be your fault entirely. You don't need a sign to tell you that.

Leaving aside the legalities, spending all that time in intensive care and on recovery in wards won't be fun. I'm not trying to have a go, I just think it would be a really crappy few months [for you].

Free ride in a helicopter though

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[MarJay]

Overtaking on a road which is lined by keep left signs? Sounds like a dumb thing to do to me.
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[dodsi]

Which set are we talking about? Portslade or Shoreham area?

[mysterious_rider]

The bit sort of near saltdean?

110mph road that. Allegedly.
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As ever; what if it was someone crossing the road?
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[Flatbadger]

To be exact it's the bit between Lancing and Shoreham airport.

OK I've been chastised now - go back to shooting Yoyo's fish in a barrel
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[Wonko The Sane]

careful claiming against the council.

My brother was T-boned as he crossed a busy A road in his C2
A route he'd driven before but not often.

no sign warning of the junction, told by the local residents who came to pull him and his wife out that it had been taken down a week ago to be taken for 'cleaning'

he tried to push this route that there was no signage and was told in no uncertain terms by the police that they'd push in return for dangerous driving / due care and attention.

he ended up with a speed awareness course
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[Pol Anorl]

theres a load of new houses being built down near me and they have some new traffic islands put in stoopid places that are currently unlit, they did have cones and lights on them, then just cones.. now nothing.
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[yen_powell]

I got a bill in 84 when I was run over by a car. I threw it away and heard no more. These days they want you to forward it on to your insurer to deal with I think.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

At the end of the day, if you can't see where you are going, slow down until you can see within your stopping distance.

Ignore this simple rule and you deserve to die in a flaming ball of fire.
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