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PostPosted: 18:54 - 16 Dec 2013    Post subject: Brighton council intends to kill the heritage speed trials Reply with quote

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10879630.Brighton_Speed_Trials_could_be_axed_amid_safety_fears/

A motorcyclist died in 2012 while participating in the time trial. The green party twonks who oversee Brighton cancelled the event in 2013, and because the coroners report concluded it was an unpreventable death they've seized on it as a reason to ban the whole event by refusing to accept the application to host it in 2014+.

Reality being, they've hated the event for years because it firmly epitomises everything they oppose (speedy cars, speedier motorbikes, going fast and having fun) and now they finally have something they can work into an excuse to end it all.

First year I have a decent bike and was hoping to have a go and now I probably won't get to. :/
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 16 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

they will soon miss the money the event brings to the town.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 16 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those in a position of authority foisting their wants and ideas on the silent majority Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 20:05 - 16 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
they will soon miss the money the event brings to the town.

The retailers might, but politicians will always be the very last to feel the pinch, until we have a "none of the above mongs" on ballot papers.

Sad day, probably a signpost for the future though. They'd doubtless allow it back if it were a fuel economy challenge.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 16 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad.
Brighton is a big gay town right?
So why aren't all the gay bikers in uproar about this 'discrimination'?
Get them on the case.
Of course so as not to discriminate they can invite straight as well as the LGBT brigade Wink

Sad the safety nazis have ticked another box.
I take it there was no liability / money payout for the death (or was there)?

Did anyone point out to the coroner that life itself is really an unpreventable death?

In which case if it isn't going to cost them money why stop it?
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am rather close to this as Roger and Charlotte who died are friends and I was there at the start line as Mechanic / engine starter

The is hardly a surprise, the poor surface of Madeira drive may well have contributed to the accident, and the council have no wish to be asked to improve it. No one coroner police ACU or Brighton motor club can say what actually was to blame


Brighton council had been pressing for charges against someone Roger, the organiser didn't seem to mater just wanted to blame someone for what the Coroner has described as a 'racing accident'

Big shame Brighton was a historic event dating back to the start of UK motor-sport

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but that is rubbish, the surface of the road/track is something that all of the competitors have to take into account. I do it daily on my commute, is it wet is there gravel how warm is it etc. all of this affects how I control my bike.

If it is poor the competitor should adjust accordingly. I had a crash coming over an overpass in the snow I dropped one too many gears and lost traction. Was it the snows fault? No it was mine.

Any ticket, contract or any other kind of motorsport has in big letters MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS. Which is true, I dare say 99% of deaths or injuries come down to either mechanical failure or driver error. It is very sad when it happens but let face it if it wasn't dangerous and people weren't pushing it to the limits unfortunately it would be boring, people down want to see Euro NCAP 5 * rated cars driving round an track with air barriers at 30mph.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry but that is rubbish, the surface of the road/track is something that all of the competitors have to take into account. I do it daily on my commute, is it wet is there gravel how warm is it etc. all of this affects how I control my bike.

If it is poor the competitor should adjust accordingly. I had a crash coming over an overpass in the snow I dropped one too many gears and lost traction. Was it the snows fault? No it was mine.


I have been going for years with a friend who races a mini there.
Apparently it is not the 'surface' that is the issue but 'humps' at the end of the 1/4 mile before the track narrows. which is where racers are flat out, or even lifting off so could get caught out.

Even if the council replaced the road I doubt the organisers will get thier foot back in the door. It is a real shame and I'll miss it.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: speed trials Reply with quote

Fucking green party have fucked up more than the speed trials its impossible to get round town now most roads are reduced to one lane to accommodate cyclists and buses.

The limp wristed twats must think we all ride to work on our Dutch bicycles waving at the Romany gypsies on our way in where we then have a group hug and discuss the amount of CO² we've saved.

They've probably earmarked Madeira drive for another pikey camp they've let the fuckers set up site on every bit of open ground around town§
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think it was possible for motor racing on a public highway to be legal in the UK under any circumstances, local authority approval or no? Regardless of if the road is closed.

Hence the abcence of a proper British roadracing event.

It seems I have the wrong end of the stick and the reason is really because of local government fun sponges*.


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PostPosted: 20:51 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I didn't think it was possible for motor racing on a public highway to be legal in the UK under any circumstances, local authority approval or no? Regardless of if the road is closed.

Hence the abcence of a proper British roadracing event.

It seems I have the wrong end of the stick and the reason is really because of local government fun sponges*.


*"Fun sponge"© dydey90.


It's probably got something to do with classifications of road. Where they used to do the speed trials/sprint was a prominade pretty much.

O well, looks like everyone'll have to do the Ramsey sprint instead on the Island where fun isn't outlawed yet. Although someone did get carted off in an ambulance last year at that event.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 17 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:

O well, looks like everyone'll have to do the Ramsey sprint instead on the Island where fun isn't outlawed yet. Although someone did get carted off in an ambulance last year at that event.


It's also an eminently unsuitable location for a modern sprint event. According to a mate who has riden there, top bikes are having to corner relatively hard on the brakes in the stopping area even when doing a 1/8 mile.

However, not a single fuck is given. Which is as it should be.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 18 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes indeed the 'Bumps' or 'Humps' where the road has settled was the bit that has been sited
the Sidecar outfits hit it at 110/140 mph the cars and fast bikes even quicker and it was nasty
It is one suspect but another is that they hit debris from a previous crash

Shame the council look like ending a hundred+ year tradition


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PostPosted: 11:42 - 18 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I didn't think it was possible for motor racing on a public highway to be legal in the UK under any circumstances, local authority approval or no? Regardless of if the road is closed.

Hence the abcence of a proper British roadracing event.

It seems I have the wrong end of the stick and the reason is really because of local government fun sponges*.


*"Fun sponge"© dydey90.


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PostPosted: 13:17 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I do like living in Northern Ireland, Road Racing is such a tourism attraction here and attracts a major local following every year.

People tend to die every other year as well and you just don't get the same fuss kicked up. Everyone accepts the risk they take by participating and hats off to them!
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the council have changed their mind

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-25871155


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