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Marmalade
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Delivering food on a ped Reply with quote

Anyone know what sort of money will be expected to insure a ped to deliver fast/hot food?

My son has this as a masterplan, bought a shitty ped that will last a week of delivery abuse and before I break it to him, I was wondering on the likely cost for a 19yo to get the correct insurance for doing this.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Delivering food on a ped Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
Anyone know what sort of money will be expected to insure a ped to deliver fast/hot food?

My son has this as a masterplan, bought a shitty ped that will last a week of delivery abuse and before I break it to him, I was wondering on the likely cost for a 19yo to get the correct insurance for doing this.


Depends on where you live and driving history. Do some quotes on a comparison website and make sure you list it as for business.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried that, no quotes, i fear the online calculator cannot handle such large sums.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
Tried that, no quotes, i fear the online calculator cannot handle such large sums.


Call somebody like MCE and see what they'll quote him?

It can't be that expensive on a 50cc ped.

Maybe they won't sure it because the scooter is that shit Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just chose a random aerox based ped to quote on. sdp&c was £530, basing that as a percentage based on my bikes spd&c vs courier/fast food delivery his will be about £2000.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
I just chose a random aerox based ped to quote on. sdp&c was £530, basing that as a percentage based on my bikes spd&c vs courier/fast food delivery his will be about £2000.


Bollocks to that. Not worth it - unless he's working full time he'll be losing money.

Ring round a few insurers and see what they say - ringing up often gets you a discount so worth trying anyway, even if you get £50 off whatever the online quote could possible be, it's £50 in his pocket not yours.

If you know his ped is going to die after a week, why are you going along with it?
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a semi serious suggestion, what about an electrically assisted pedal cycle? Compare it to the cost of insurance, fuel and maintenance on a registered vehicle. Factor in that he'll be able to take some liberties with road traffic regulations and indeed roads.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's road legal, then it won't add a massive amount.
People likely won't realise if it's not.

However, as I often go on about - there's a lot of situations where I find a normal push bike is still quicker than cars (and up here they don't understand the concept of filtering generally, so also many motorbikes).

Hills are more of an issue, of course, but then slipping through parks and alleys makes up for some of that.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
If you know his ped is going to die after a week, why are you going along with it?


I'm trying to find out at which number of owned shitters that have been 'modified' he realises that shitty pieces of crap bikes are for getting to work on, not spending your entire bank balance on and selling for £50 because you've fucked them up.



G wrote:
If it's road legal, then it won't add a massive amount.
People likely won't realise if it's not.


I will and plod will on their nightly pull over of the latest pos ped in the area he lives in and the that'll be his bike gone, not that it's a major loss.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, that was in relation to Rogerborg's post about electric bikes not peds.

You're allowed 200/250w to be legal with out plate/tax/insurance, but over it should be considered a motorbike.
However, the two would look pretty much identical and it's rare anyone even realises it's electric to start with - on mine the only person I've had ask was wondering it was a hub brake.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'd know and he's still retarded enough to think that a loud exhaust makes it go faster and changing to a set of renthal bars will make it handle better. Rolling Eyes so an electric bike, no matter how practical and money saving would be a big no no
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that 19 year old me would likely have got TPO SD&P cover from Dodgy Dan's Discount Donners and Insurance Ltd, and convinced myself that ah, it'll be all right, I'll blag my way out of it.

I might even have been right.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Food deliverys on an electric bike are a cool idea Wink
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH from what I have seen a lot of drivers do it without any insurance above their own.

End of the month you usually see police trawl hot food places and do their drivers for no hot food delivery insurance.

The fact that employers aren't willing to pay for it and pay £1 a delivery (from adverts I've seen) and not pay for fuel it is the only way to actually make some money.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
End of the month you usually see police trawl hot food places and do their drivers for no hot food delivery insurance.

Where have you seen that?
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If hes just after a riding/delivery job at his age, wouldn't it be a lot less hassle and cheaper finding a place that provides the bike with the job. We have an absolute ton of domino's and similar round here that provide the delivery people with bikes etc.

That being said i'm sure now he has his own bike, he won't want to revert to some pizza-logo plastered 50cc Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
If hes just after a riding/delivery job at his age, wouldn't it be a lot less hassle and cheaper finding a place that provides the bike with the job. We have an absolute ton of domino's and similar round here that provide the delivery people with bikes etc.

That being said i'm sure now he has his own bike, he won't want to revert to some pizza-logo plastered 50cc Laughing


Depends on the area really. My local dominos does delivery but you have to provide your own car (!)
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
If hes just after a riding/delivery job at his age, wouldn't it be a lot less hassle and cheaper finding a place that provides the bike with the job. We have an absolute ton of domino's and similar round here that provide the delivery people with bikes etc.

That being said i'm sure now he has his own bike, he won't want to revert to some pizza-logo plastered 50cc Laughing


Depends on the area. My local Dominos does delivery but drivers need to provide their own car (!)
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have got through to him today about the insurance thing.

I've not got through to him about just what a bad idea it is though.

Roll up, roll up. How much do we think he will be getting for this delivering shizzle?
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I delivered Chinese on my 50cc I only had TPO SD&P cover.
Jheeze most of them didn't have a CBT and a few I think we're prob not allowed in the country lol.

I got £5 p.h plus £1 per delivery (done 2-3 deliveries per hour. Only time I got stopped by plod I don't even think they realised Iwas doing deliveries! I just said i was insured.

Have a look at some bigger chains if your worried as they usually have their own bikes, so no need to worry about anything.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

'ped delivery is typically NWM for the age.
What amuses me is all the shit-in-a-kebab joints expect you to pay to be able to deliver for them.
Fuck that, if you want a driver you pay to employ them.

Domino's cover you on their insurance as long as you're covered on your own vehicle.

Pizza Hut is all provided, TheDonUK spent a while doing it, he did a dedicated thread and was very helpful when I asked a few years back. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got some details out of him.

£5ph plus 50p per delivery, using his ped.

He can't see how much they are taking the piss out of him
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
I finally got some details out of him.

£5ph plus 50p per delivery, using his ped.

He can't see how much they are taking the piss out of him


Laughing So £5.50 per hour, because his ped is so slow he won't make more than that.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minimum wage is £3.72 for a 16 year old and can be £2.50 or so as an apprentice - so, there probably are worse options.

Oh and get him to read Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" for some tips Razz.
(I so wish the Fast Food industry DID work like that Razz.)
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's 19, going on 14
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