Why the NHS is awesome!!

[Bubbs]

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[P.]

That is seriously pricey.

Aside from the hospital giving me a fairly painful infection, then undoing 2 week old surgery with pliers... they did a good job

[Rebel]

So the £75 the NHS is going to start charging freeloading johnny foreigner wont cover much then.

[Lord Percy]

That's the first time I've ever genuinely said 'fucking hell' out loud at my computer screen in general gobsmacked disbelief.

[fatpies]

It's the insurance effect.

When a garage gets an insurance job, they will charge outrageous fees because the insurance is paying out for it.

Same thing happens with health.

Add in the fact that insurers collude and hospitals will also collude and it bumps up the price considerably!

Hetz had an experience with Japan where it is private but not even a quarter as gougy.
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[Walloper]

I have an enlarged my spleen now, thanks. How do I get in touch with NHS now?


We all rely on NHS (We all do whether BUPA-ed or not.)

So why do we not want to support the people who work there?

The government are hammering the NHS everyday. Because it is one of the most expensive (and important) items our taxes fund.

There are many that 'stupidly' critique the service but we could not live as well with the alternative.

God Save the NHS. (Possibly tighten the qualifying criterion a little.) If you do not help your self then NHS help will be tapered off.
We are all subject to the rules in everything else. eg. Insurance premiums are loaded for bad behaviour.
Therefore perhaps we should be likewise encouraged to behave when it comes down to our basic health
i.e. Too fat? diet and exercise, You are a Drunk/Druggie/Smoker? Then stop doing that shit or die and save the taxpayer money.

We all have a right to NHS but equally we all should help ourselves and not do harm. If the Doctors and Nurses are charged with our care then WE SHOULD AS WELL.

There is absolutely nothing, I can see, unfair or against human rights to be encouraged (forced is you like) to keep yourself healthy.

***NHS RANTING HEAD OFF***
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[pinkyfloyd]

I honestly cannot work out how they can justify charging over $6K for a CT Scan. There is no way in the world the info which gets sent to a PC and then printed out costs that much, nor the power used to produce the scan image.

A quick google and the UK private CT scans start at around £200 and max out at around £600. So the USA people are charging outrageous amounts.

A nights stay in hospital costs the NHS around £225.

Moral of the story. Dont get sick in USA
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[chris-red]

I thought maybe the US would have much lower taxes as a result.

I put my salary into a UK and a US salary calculator.

I would get 3.4% more take home in the US. I'll have the NHS thanks.
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[dydey90]

Sounds like a case of "think of a number and add a zero"

I didn't know that the insurance only covers 80% of the cost too, I thought it'd have worked like motor insurance?
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[Lord Percy]

I wonder if it would be cheaper for US communities to band together and form their own sort of community hospitals? They could have their own unofficial NHS-style system, for anyone with a local hospital card or something. Like everyone would pay $X per month and that would grant them access to the service of the hospital. I wonder if that would prove more or less pricey than their current insurance premiums.

[Walloper]

[fatpies]

[mgh0]

The NHS gets an utter pasting in the press, on one hand they criticize hospitals for not having any money and the next headline will be about care being rationed.

I'm an ITU nurse and morale across my hospital is at rock bottom at the moment, experienced high quality staff are leaving in droves to go overseas or to the private sector.

And yet we still provide a world class service, free at the point of care. People won't appreciate how good it is until its gone imo.
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[Shinigami]

While I agree the NHS is good for most things they get some things horribly wrong causing massive cost to the finances & health of individuals in attempts at cutting costs. The mrs was bitten by a tick in slovenia and contracted Lyme diseas, had all of the symptoms including the bite mark and rashes and the GP refused to acknowledge she may have Lyme, even worse the tests the NHS use for diagnosing it are useless and often show negative when the person has it.

She now has to repeatedly travel to germany to a specialist and pay for all of her treatment & medication herself, and as the test results were not performed by an NHS doctor they won't acknowledge them.

costs her a fortune in meds nearly £200 a month I think it is
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[Radis]

You may find it interesting to learn that the NHS would only pay the hospital that did the treatment in the OP £2,254 +MFF (MFF is Market Forces Factor, it is a small uplift to do with the cost of providing care in the region). From this the hospital on average pays £3.50 per day on food and £72 on "hotel" costs, that is housekeeping essentially. The rest goes on the equipment for the operation/stay and the cost of providing the staff.

You may also be interested to know that if you return to hospital for the same complaint within 30 days and are admitted for it the hospital doesn't get a penny of the original fee. There are loads of other ways that hospitals aren't paid for the work they do as well, such as having a baseline of non-elective patients that you get paid for but any over that you don't. So it should be no surprise that the majority of hospitals are in debt. Slow privatisation of the service is already happening, it is only a matter of time before the government of the day decides that all elective procedures should be paid for either through insurance or by the patient themselves and then it is only a short step to the full America model.

[Radis]

I should have also said that the above fee the hospital can charge covers a patient to stay for up to 7 days.

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