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 Posted: 12:59 - 07 Jan 2014 Post subject: Tyre Warmers for winter. |
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Thought I'd share my cool story bro.
Obviously i'm aware they are mainly for track gods, of which i am not.
However after fitting new tyres and then promptly spilling it the other week, then finding my new rubber sweating in the cold, coupled with me being a 'short blasts' hooligan sort of biker. Thought a set might be worth a squirt.
Only had three rides in since, but my god does it make a difference, especially to the front, which always takes longer to warm when riding. Now = instant out of the box dependability, even in the cold wet. The increase in tyre pressure due to the heat is quite noticeable and felt a bit weird initially, but i wish I'd splashed out years ago.
Got to be a huge safety asset aswell, I'm sure i read somewhere that statistically the majority of spills/crashes happen within the first 10 mins* (certainly the case in 90% of my crashes) when the tyres are cold and grip is compromised.
I expect to feel much more confident conducting emergency stops after 5minutes of riding, knowing my tyres have just spent 30minutes in their own personal saunas.
Wonder if I can get my insurance premium down a bit, lol .
Thoroughly recommend you all try a set at some point, especially the short blasters out there!
*maybe wrong ____________________ Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
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 Posted: 13:58 - 07 Jan 2014 Post subject: |
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I'm almost certain this is SPAMMERY.
You do not need tyre warmers you simply need tyre that will warm up quickly.
Mostly normal road tyres have compound that warms up quickly and stays warm. Race tyres take longer to warm up and cool quicker as they are used in extreme heat conditions ie on a track/in racing. ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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 Posted: 14:12 - 07 Jan 2014 Post subject: |
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I'd keep an eye on the temperature of them if I were you, especially in the current weather. If you're on Supercorsas or similar, I've gone out on fully up to temp tyres on a track in 'summer' but on a rainy track and had them go stone cold in a few laps because I couldn't keep the heat in them and the water cooled them down.
Make sure if you're riding round with water on the road (or even a dry road, but not pushing it) that they haven't gone cold. You don't want to end up crashing at a faster pace because you thought they were warm when they weren't.
But yes straight out of the warmers any tyre grips much better  |
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| Walloper wrote: | I'm almost certain this is HOMOSEXUALITY |
Fixed it.
You binned it on cold new tyres, probbably on shit surface. It happens, it's part of biking. Solution is to buy decent tyres - running warmers on the road, even on a trackday is massively over the top. If you're racing and every last possible advantage counts then sure, it's a must have - but otherwise a total waste of money.
So daily routine probbably looks something like this;
Get up, leathers on, boots on, remove chain, remove disclock, attach warmers, fire the bike up, warm tyres, warm engine, preflight checks, necktube on, lid on, gloves on, remove warmers, pack back into the house (by which time that's all done the tyres have probbably cooled down anyway) then get on it and ride the 20min commute to work?
Fuck that for a laugh...30-40mins prep before every single ride  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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surely the answer is to just get more suitable/better tyres? money wasted /thread  ____________________ Current: Honda City Fly CLR125 2003 Honda CB600F Hornet 2008 Yamaha FZ6 S2 + 1991 Kawasaki GPZ500
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Or even just take it easy in the shitty wank wet and cold? ____________________ 07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change! |
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Doubt my boss would allow me to plug them in at work.  |
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Actually I was wrong... Tell your insurance company you use tyre warmers for the road! I'm sure they'll be delighted to modify your premium for using race only equipment just before you set off on your commute!
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 Posted: 18:27 - 07 Jan 2014 Post subject: |
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I can't even be bothered with all the messing about using warmers on a trackday so sod putting them on to nip down to the shop. ____________________ Yamaha FZR400RR 3tj
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Learn to adjust your riding style to prevailing weather and road conditions. Fit decent road tyres that give grip from the off (PR3s for example).
Job done.
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 Posted: 19:01 - 07 Jan 2014 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Or, buy something like a PR3 which has good grip from the off, and you still won't be able to reach the limits of them on the road anyway. |
Bit late now, maybe next time. Doubt i've ever reached the limits of any tyre i've owned, but i like to try.
| Quote: | You do not need tyre warmers you simply need tyre that will warm up quickly |
like the PR3?
| Quote: | Make sure if you're riding round with water on the road (or even a dry road, but not pushing it) that they haven't gone cold. You don't want to end up crashing at a faster pace because you thought they were warm when they weren't.
But yes straight out of the warmers any tyre grips much better Thumbs Up |
Obviously they start to cool down within minutes and i soon noticed this, but Hot>Warm seems so much more useful than Cold>Warm, regardless of journey time. Its a nice change to have tyres that cool down to operating temp.
| Quote: | So daily routine probbably looks exactly like this; |
Wake up, bang wife (cos i aint gay), dressed, breakfast, off to work in van, finish work, home, power up garage from house to which warmers are on and switched live, eat wifes dinner, out to garage, fire the bike up, leathers on, boots on, preflight checks, necktube on, lid on, gloves on, remove warmers, drop bike off lift, then get on it and ride for fun
| Quote: | Or even just take it easy in the shitty wank wet and cold? |
Or take the car, even easier.
| Quote: | Do you actually know what tyre warmers are for. |
Fortunatly for me, the clue was in the name.
| Quote: | They do not maintain the temperature after you've removed them. |
No shit.
| Quote: | This will have absolutely NO effect on the temperature of your tyres on a winter commute. |
Well, it will to start with.
| Quote: | Actually I was wrong... Tell your insurance company you use tyre warmers for the road! I'm sure they'll be delighted to modify your premium for using race only equipment just before you set off on your commute! |
It was a joke, hence the lol.
| Quote: | Is it not a pain in the arse having the put the bike on paddock stands and put the tyre warmers on half an hour before you want to go out? |
No. It takes less than 30 seconds to fit/remove warmers and a MX Lift.
| Quote: | Could you not just take it easy for the first few miles? |
Isn't that what everyone does?
| Quote: | Do the tyres have much/any heat left in them after you've been riding? |
More than if i'd started out from cold, but not alot no. To many varibles really tho arn't there.
| Quote: | So, instead of getting the same or increasing grip, as your ride goes on you may well be getting worse grip |
Absolutley, especially this time of year. But by the time the grip starts to decrease, i've found my groove . Or arrived.
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The cool bit comes as soon as you remove the warmers silly. |
for that,
Seriously tho, thanks for the replys all, wasn't really looking for any. I was just suprised how well they work from the off, and felt compelled to share my experience.
I'm fully aware that i've wasted money, but i'm an egay addict and like to wax cash daily. (recently spent £200 on a chair for my newborn (heard of a mamaroo?))
I Had 2 sets of Pirelli Dragon supercorsa pro's since getting the bike, and have only now just switched to Conti Attack SMs as i figured they might be fun come summer and the possibilitys of track days.
Not sure if i'm happy with my choice yet, but still very early days. Def not a tyre for the cold and wet, hence my experimentaion with warmers.
I doubt i'll be bothering with them in summer, even if i do find myself at a track day. ____________________ Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
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Doubt this even happened but......
COOL STORY BRO anyhow.  ____________________ YBR125 (SOLD) - CBR250R(SOLD) - CBR650F(SOLD) Current - Street Triple
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 89 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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