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Posted: 14:47 - 02 Jan 2014 Post subject: Shops, costs and pros/cons? |
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Alot of people won't outright want to pay an extra fiver for a chinese to be delivered, but alot of our local chippy's dont deliver so we're getting them onboard to push our service.
Chippy usually costs ~£10 a time for a couple of people, add a 4pack and a bottle of wine/pop it's soon £15.
Pay £20 or less (location dependant) and have it delivered within 10mins of you getting home? dont think its that unreasonable tbh.
We're investing most of it ourselves.
Cargo pushbikes and a couple of cheapo fez's for cheaps transport and the rest comes easy.
Alot of shops have agreed to put flyers up saying they use us - and we haven't even got them yet
Industrial unit is a good option, but once you go out of town the whole 'free' delivery (to us*) using pushbikes is no longer an option, and using cars or mopeds for all deliveries means too higher fuel overheads.
)*obvs not 'free', we still have a wage to pay we just profit slightly if we get 2/3/5 deliveries in the same hour) ____________________ Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done |
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Ah, I'd initially thought you were doing hot food yourself - then it's pretty similar to my thoughts, though I was thinking to make a deal with one of the cornershops that WAS open late - there was a really good Italian that did takeaways where I lived, but it was the other end of town and didn't deliver, so it was rare we got anything from there.
Were it me then, I'd be strongly considering seeing if anyone has an existing corner-shop business for sale.
Of course, there's always a reason they're selling - but it would give you more of a change to be making money from the off.
I'd also look at electric push bikes - feel free to drop me a PM - this is something I've more recently (the other stuff was a good 15 years ago) been thinking about a bit too as far as delivery options.
However, if you're staying fully legal, to be fair, a fit rider on a normal push bike will be probably be as fast as a non-licensed electric. Something around the 1kw mark which DOES legally require a plate and so on would be an option (1kw and under is a bit easier to get a home-brew one registered), but then you need specific road insurance, number plate, (free) tax and everything (I'd be going for public liability anyway for all sorts of things.) |
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That is definitely why you have a LIMITED company, to limit your liability .
Oh and I was thinking - for most deliveries, a normal push bike with panniers is likely fine. Could insulate the panniers, even consider a small heating element or something. I've had 4 bags of shopping in my panniers with a 17kg bag of dog food on top and it does fine.
Also look less conspicuous.
I generally take stuff I'm sending on the push bike and have done trips with stuff like (on one trip) couple of 2 stroke expansion chamber pipes, car wheel with tyre, few smaller boxes. Ok, that sort of thing starts to get a bit flaky, but you won't be getting stuff nearly as unwieldy. |
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So there's lots of takeaways that don't deliver, but presumably there's more that do deliver? Why would people pay £5 for you to deliver when there's lots of places that do deliver for free? You say you'll offer alcohol, tobacco and other retail items, other than a few stoners I can't see many people being interested.
There's no shops open past 8pm, does that include petrol stations? Out of interest what city is it that doesn't have anywhere open past 8pm?? Tesco, corner shops, One Stop, Cost Cutter, etc etc etc are all over the place, why do you think there's nothing like that in a city that thrives on convenience lifestyle?
I can't see how you'd make any profit at all unless there's something very significant that I've missed in this thread. |
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If there really aren't any convenience shops open past 8pm (must be the only City in the country where there aren't) then have you thought about why that might be?
I guarantee you, if there was a market for it, some ethnic minority origin type person would be doing it by now.
Having retail premises is a massive drain on your resources, given that's it's going to be a telephone/internet driven business and the cost of operating a high street store is hugely more than an off street industrial unit.
It doesn't have to miles from anywhere, just not an on street retail premises, you'll probably reduce your ongoing costs by anything up to 50%. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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TBH G, if it was me (and it wouldn't be, I can't see how this business makes money, with four shareholders involved) I'd operate out of a back bedroom or garage, see how it goes and then expand as required.
No rent/rates/lease involved at all.
I'm also still trying to work out how this is any different to Just Eat; I've just looked and even at this hour, I can get pretty much anything delivered to me right now, plus it asks me when I want it, in 5 minute increments up to 12 hours in the future.
I thought the USP of this business was forward planning, but I can already get that, so what's new? ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Yea, the forward planning stuff I don't really see.
I've never known anyone to ever actually use the 'order in advance' option on any online fast food thing - there's a reason you're ordering in and that's generally laziness . That doesn't work with pre-planning.
Getting places that don't do delivery I would see as a market - lots of people have favourites, but not all do deliveries. Plenty of places will also charge a bit for delivery; I can see it not being a big stretch to paying a fiver if you're talking a reasonable group of people all ordering stuff - say at least 7 or 8. Especially if they happen to be intoxicated at the time and either don't want to go out because of that, or because they're too busy doing whatever they're doing.
But yes, I'd tend to agree on starting small.
If it was a case of buying an existing shop with proven sales, I'd say there was more potential there as you know you're quids in already and you're putting yourself at less risk from the extra - though certainly such shops these days are usually run by a family and the money goes towards that one family, not 4 people. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 149 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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