Romanians don't want to move to UK

[Im-a-Ridah]

Yup, even the Romanian immigrants look down on London, Leicester, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham etc

"... too many Arabs, Blacks, Pakistanis, Indians and Chinese"!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379820/Avoid-London-it-s-full-of-Pakistanis-Romanians-warn-fellow-migrants

[Benno]

[Ste]

Published: Sun, February 24, 2013

The lack of Romanians and Bulgarians who've arrived is going to take the some of the wind out of the sails of the big political parties anti immigration drive that's a result of UKIP gaining popularity.

Let's see what happens next.

[Rogerborg]

[Rigga]

There's plenty of the dirty feckers in Wakefield!
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[Im-a-Ridah]

[Benno]

[Polarbear]

Jobs, wtf do they need jobs for when there's a very nice line in begging along the Strand. (And enough idiots giving them money to make sure they stay)
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[Ste]

I agree with some of what you see, let's see what happens next.

[TheSmiler]

[Benno]

[daemonoid]

[Rogerborg]

[Ste]

Duck face!!!

[-Matt-]

The ones that really wanted to move here came years ago. They were given and continue to work in the same jobs those coming with 'freedom' are now - under the 'restrictions' of work permits. Similarly the ones that cause problems have been coming here for years regardless of employment ability, as they don't want to get employment - they want to pickpocket rich Londoners.

Its nothing new either, and certainly nothing specific to Romanians or Bulgarians, or the UK for that matter, Berlin, Paris, Rome and Madrid all have the same problem, they just give less shits about blaming it on 'immigration'. Most of these pickpockets don't live here anyway, they just come on 'holiday' get their loot and disappear off back to their huge mansions in Eastern Europe.

Just because a Romanian or Bulgarian now has the ability to come here and apply to any senior high paid job as of January 1st doesn't mean anywhere will employ them as anything other than a 'doss job', that most English people don't even consider employment while they sit on the doll whining about foreigners taking jobs.

Nothings changed except the politicians scape-goating will probably be re-directed to global warming or some other 'potential threat' to our pristine society.

[Robby]

Things have changed since the big influx of Polish workers a few years ago. Back then times were good, British workers had become lazy, and a lot of Poles could do the first generation immigrant thing. It worked out fairly well, unless you were a British tradesman, who suddenly had competition.

The Romania and Bulgaria situation is different. They don't seem to have a particular skilled or semi skilled niche to fill as with the Polish builders, so the jobs that a lot of them would be going after are unskilled service industry jobs. These are harder to get because a lot of people from other European countries have come over here - half the coffee shops in London now are staffed by young Spaniards, because youth unemployment in Spain is so high.

The benefits tourism angle is an interesting one, it may just be that we have a different kind of underclass. I could see British dolescum moving to a country with higher paying benefits to be overseas dolescum, but maybe Bulgaria and Romania don't have the same sort of dolescum. Maybe their underclass is made up of Roma gyppos instead, who do a bit of (legal) dolescumming alongside plenty of (illegal) benefit scams, petty theft and begging. The crime side of is enough to get them arrested, sent home, and then refused entry on subsequent attempts.

[Rogerborg]

[Robby]

Ok, not enough in that case, but I know of a few where it has worked. One of the very few cases where EU nationals have been refused entry, always a tricky subject.

[daemonoid]

[Rogerborg]

And yet migrants do travel all through Europe to squat in the UK. You should let them know that they can just park themselves wherever they want and start claiming, they'll be delighted.
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[Rogerborg]

[-Matt-]

I think at the current rates we are capable of handling the immigration, IF the government invested appropriately in infrastructure.

Housing and schools are the big problem. But half of that problem is down to them allowing guzzling landlords to profiteer the little money most people have, including their benefits into their own pockets.

The money would be more available to be invested into developement if many people didn't have to live pay cheque to pay cheque scraping by on rent half of their lives.

[Lord Percy]

Skilled immigration is fine.

And to some extent I believe in general freedom for anyone to cross any border they like, to make a life wherever they please.

But the one thing that really annoys me is how the UK is seen as this wonderful utopia of awesomeness, just because we had an empire last century and most of the world is now indoctrinated into our greatness by the false ideals put forward by our cultural exports.

So loads of people want to come here, but they don't have a clue what 'here' actually is.

Then they arrive, by whatever means they used, and end up living a shitter, more boring life than they had before!

I worked night shifts in Sainsburys for a little while and was amazed by the amount of immigrants from non-EU countries who were clearly unskilled and could barely speak a word of English. I do understand how they probably got here, as it's a general knock-on effect of the actions of the British Empire, but I don't know why in hell they ever came here in the first place because they seemed utterly miserable, and frankly they probably were.

Most first-world folk who do the whole voluntourism thing comment on how happy and vibrant people are even in the poorest of communities. So why do they leave? Why do they come here? I firmly believe that the primary reason is so they can have more things. Because in the modern world, you're a nobody until you have things.

And that is why immigration is starting to piss me off a bit. Because I truly don't think most people come here simply for a better life. They come here on a sort gold-rush. They want a little bit of loot. They want their share of the pie they've had sold to them by Western media. Their lives at home aren't worse! Oxfam may tell us they live in awful conditions, but it's entirely subjective. If they didn't know about our world, they would be utterly content with what they have. They wouldn't know any better. Ok there is the odd corner of general squalor and misfortune, but I'm fairly sure most 'third world' countries have their own sections of paradise too, if only they were willing to manage themselves properly. In the end it's just land (fertile), nature, animals (domestic), humans (educated), and suitable governance. Moving to another country won't suddenly achieve that.

Primarily I do wonder what the flow of immigration would be like if the whole 'better life' thing wasn't sold to every man and his dog. Specially when 'better life' hardly means what they think it means. We still all work roughly the same amount of hours in a day, after all.