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GrumpyGuts
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Private Pilot's License Reply with quote

Has anybody completed this or doing their PPL?

I'm currently doing mine on a Cessna 152 so I was wondering if there are any pilots out there?
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:05 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby got one some years ago I believe.
Bendy's got a microlight one (get a little lost in the classifications for them).
Think Hex has a PPL(H)
I did a good bit towards one many years ago, but change in circumstances stopped me. Still looking to do hang gliding (much cheaper), but time and money not allowing at the moment (and that it's a little chilly this time of year for learning Smile ).
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a few of the 'chat phogs' have or are working on it.

I've got an NPPL(M) which is a microlight licence.

152's are wang Razz
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got 6 hrs in a Chipmunk with the ATC when i was a lad (Does that count???)
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sniff6 wrote:
Got 6 hrs in a Chipmunk with the ATC when i was a lad (Does that count???)


No lol. I tried that when I started. I've logged about 9 hours in the Grob Tutor 115 in the ATC but they are air experience flights and cannot be counted Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

60 minutes in a piper tomahawk count?
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I logged about 10 hours in a Cessna 152, but that was a long time ago, and I ran out of money. It's not a cheap hobby! I had a couple of flights in a Bulldog with the ATC when I was a cadet as well.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my PPL back in 2006, JAR PPL in a month over in Florida.

I didn't keep it up. Flying over here was too much of a ballache.

If I was going to get back into it in some way I'd probably just go for paragliding.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started, than had to stop for a while and when I got back to it, my vertigo had got out of control and I had to knock it on the head.

Sadly, flying is not for me, but I suspect my bank balance loves me for that.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 16 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

JP7 wrote:
It's not a cheap hobby!


Now that the expensive bit is over, I fly for £35/hour wet in the nice plane and the 2 stroke deathtrap'll work out less than that. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Logged about 25 hours in a Tomahawk when I was younger but gave up when I couldn't afford it. Think I was paying £140-£200 an hour in 2008-9 (depending on how many touch and go's I did) so I'd bet now it was nearly half as much again. Love to go back to it but realistically balancing a degree and learning all the shit to pass the exams isn't possible at the moment.

I'm looking at getting into hang-gliding though. Looks like a laugh and it's a lot cheaper than the 8-10k it costs for a PPL nowadays Laughing I'm a bit scared of heights though, that being said Laughing

I considered doing a summer in the States but the money was too much. 8k for 8 weeks and that was before living costs, visa, flights, getting around... not worth it. Glad I didn't go as 6 months later shit hit the fan at home and I was out on my arse at 17 with no money and nowhere to live, definitely not enough money to fly Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just started my PPL in Florida at the FIT Aviation. I am doing it alongside an Aeronautical Science degree!

Logged my first ground school hour today! We are using Piper Warrior's that are much nicer than the Diamond's I flew at Blackbushe airport in the UK.

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PostPosted: 01:14 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
I did my PPL back in 2006, JAR PPL in a month over in Florida.

I didn't keep it up. Flying over here was too much of a ballache.

If I was going to get back into it in some way I'd probably just go for paragliding.


The JAR PPL is the one I'm aiming for.

The lesson is roughly £135 per hour (depending on oil prices, too) and as it stands, I've only got 1.35 hours logged Evil or Very Mad

It's so expensive and the weather is always fucking crap, I've not had a lesson since November.

I'm aiming for the commercial route (was wanting to be military but that didn't pan out) but that in itself is about £60,000!
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is/will it not be an EASA PPL?

As Robby's experience shows it is probably cheaper and better to get it done in a country where flying weather is more frequent.

One of the worst things you can do while training is have a break or a gap, so if you are serious on pursuing an aviation career doing it over a month should help that.

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PostPosted: 01:26 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:

I'm looking at getting into hang-gliding though. Looks like a laugh and it's a lot cheaper than the 8-10k it costs for a PPL nowadays Laughing I'm a bit scared of heights though, that being said Laughing

Have you found anywhere cheap around this kinda areas (you're not TOO far from me) out of interest?

Didn't seem to much, last time I looked.

Unfortunately paragliding being a fair bit more popular seems to be a lot more prevalent. I wouldn't mind doing that too at some point, but hang gliding interests me more right now (2 axis control, 'part of the machine' and 'like a bird view') - have done a day's paragliding training and two hang gliding before.
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Have you found anywhere cheap around this kinda areas (you're not TOO far from me) out of interest?

Didn't seem to much, last time I looked.

Unfortunately paragliding being a fair bit more popular seems to be a lot more prevalent. I wouldn't mind doing that too at some point, but hang gliding interests me more right now (2 axis control, 'part of the machine' and 'like a bird view') - have done a day's paragliding training and two hang gliding before.


I haven't looked into any particular places but apparently it's about a 10 hour course over a few days for about £500 or so. Bit like doing DAS I suppose, then you can either rent or buy a decent hang glider for a few grand which I suppose would be good if you got the use out of it.

The weather being crap (at least around here, I'm on the Mersey) probably means you wouldn't get to fly much. When I was learning to fly I went November-March without a lesson purely down to it raining every time I had a lesson booked.

I'm not particularly big on paragliding as I'd prefer a proper wing rather than a rag on some string Laughing that and I'm not a fan of strapping a massive engine on my back like some sort of pikey Inspector Gadget.

I've done nothing at all but I saw it on Mythbusters and it looked bloody brilliant. Definitely want to try it.
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually got my own hang glider as it goes, though never even had it out of the bag myself - had been looking like I could start doing it again.
Fairly cheap, if I do end up using it, will probably be another couple of hundred to get it checked out and stuff poked etc.

It's more two five day courses - the first five days really has to be at a 'school', but I believe the second can be at a club if you have your own wing, under the instruction of an appropriate person there.

I actually want to go for an engine on a hang glider eventually - means you can fly in more weather and more do what you want without worrying about focusing on thermals etc.

Note you don't HAVE to do ANYTHING for this sort of air sport to be legal.
I know someone that bought a paraglider, arrived one day, had a poke around. Was flying it the next.
He had both had previous hang glider experience many years before AND was an air ambulance paramedic, so knew a bit about air stuff already.
That route of course isn't recommended and definitely not new to hang gliding (I'd say paragliding is a bit easier, though certainly would still suggest the course for that too, of course Smile ).
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

JP7 wrote:
I logged about 10 hours in a Cessna 152, but that was a long time ago, and I ran out of money. It's not a cheap hobby! I had a couple of flights in a Bulldog with the ATC when I was a cadet as well.


Im the same, got about 20 hours on a 152, did my solo, started navigation, then uni happened and i ran out of money
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

did my club license for paragliding in Turkey in 04, it was a lot cheaper than in the Uk
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have about 5 hours playing X-Plane flight simulator. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
I have about 5 hours playing X-Plane flight simulator. Thumbs Up


Damn, more than my couple of hours playing war thunder, however I did have a lot experience as a lad playing X wing
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see this a lot - people start out on a PPL, sold by salesmen (lets not call them pilots) at numerous flying schools. But the cost just mounts up and up. People give up.

£5000ish for a PPL now? Crazy. Something you'll be lucky to get a few hours use in the UK, and that's if you can afford the gas/oil/etc.

I have 4000(ish) hours so if you need to know anything more.... Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the benefits from owning one?

It's not like you have an aircraft up your drive way?
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Whats the benefits from owning one?

It's not like you have an aircraft up your drive way?


Move to the US and live in an airpark. Job's a goodun.

https://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7114/258/1600/762170/airparkbig1116.jpg

Here there are plenty of little private strips folk operate from, so planes can be kept closer to home than you might imagine.
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