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PostPosted: 12:10 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Do I have to tell my insurance company? Reply with quote

A women smashed her car into my parked bike essentially.

If i get the money for repairs etc from her, do I still need to inform my insurance?

If so, doesn't that mean that any time someone has a minor incident with any other vehicle they have to inform them?
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you're claiming for her insurance. No problem.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're supposed to, but in reality it will just cause issues for both of you.

You just have to make sure she doesn't tell hers, otherwise yours will find out and you'll be told off - not sure what extent this kind of telling off goes to mind.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, there was another car hit by her as well, I think has my details (the police gave them to her) and therefore i am very liable to be sniffed out by my insurance company.

Does it go down as incident - no claim made and then claim cost £0?
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

And does that mean just because I am an innocent victim of SH*T driving that I'm gonna be shafted by insurance company's for the next 5 years?
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
And does that mean just because I am an innocent victim of SH*T driving that I'm gonna be shafted by insurance company's for the next 5 years?


Yes. If you tell them that anything happened to the vehicle relating to the policy, regardless of blame or cost to them, you'll be bent over next year.
Which is why most people don't tell them if the other person offered to pay.

//edit: Like I said I don't know what the telling off would amount to; it may just be "You didn't tell us about this accident, tell us next time".

//edit2: The Police were there? Recorded incident?
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbourner wrote:

//edit2: The Police were there? Recorded incident?


Yes, well I got a crime reference number anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still having to declare an accident that happened in 2010 where some fuckwit gentleman who lacked certain skills managed to write off my car. Not my fault, I couldn't have prevented it yet I still had to pay an additional £300 per year for the privilege of receiving a payout at no cost to my insurer.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
tbourner wrote:

//edit2: The Police were there? Recorded incident?


Yes, well I got a crime reference number anyway.


Well then I'm not sure what the best option is. If it was me I would tell my insurance but then I'm a big wussy pants who always does as he's told. I'm sure many others would wing it and get away with nothing ever coming of it.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
And does that mean just because I am an innocent victim of SH*T driving that I'm gonna be shafted by insurance company's for the next 5 years?


Yes, HTH. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she's damaged more than one vehicle isn't she more likely to go through insurance. Two cash payouts for repair is surely going to exceed her excess by enough of a margin to not make it worth her while?
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
If she's damaged more than one vehicle isn't she more likely to go through insurance. Two cash payouts for repair is surely going to exceed her excess by enough of a margin to not make it worth her while?


possibly not insured, diaplayed tax was out of date.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it'd be better to go through insurance then...

Or get it repaired yourself, bribe the garage into putting twice the actual cost on the receipt and make a tidy profit.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
possibly not insured, diaplayed tax was out of date.

You're not supposed to use AskMID to check if other people's vehicles are insured, so best not, eh? Wink

Worst case, you'll be going down the MIB uninsured driver route. There's a £300 excess on that, which you might consider reclaiming by billing then small claiming her directly.

First things first though, your claim is initially against her, but start badgering now, because the longer she leaves it, the more she'll convince herself that it probably wasn't her fault anyway, bloody bikes lying around all over the road...
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
No, you're claiming for her insurance. No problem.


If ANY Ins co is involved in the claim. Then declare.....

If no Ins co is involved in the payout. Then silence is golden.

If she has claimed via her ins then, odds on your ins co will find out later and then hit you with a charge.
As well as risking them voiding your ins.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the phone with them now (On hold), apparently I paid for legal assistance which is a god send now and may be able to recover all costs from her side without affecting my no claims... nice Thumbs Up

Edit: So yes, she has insurance.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't buy this whole "legal cover" and "helmet and leathers" business Neutral

Any insurance company worth their salt would realise that a crash that was not your fault would have impacted what you were wearing and put that cost to the other side. I've never had legal or "contents" cover on a bike, yet I've always got the stuff back, or money to the pieces value.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
No, you're claiming for her insurance. No problem.


If ANY Ins co is involved in the claim. Then declare.....

If no Ins co is involved in the payout. Then silence is golden.

If she has claimed via her ins then, odds on your ins co will find out later and then hit you with a charge.
As well as risking them voiding your ins.


I'd go along with iooi here and just add my usual stipulation that the best thing to do in any situation is READ CAREFULLY the statement of fact you declared at inception of your policy and / or the statement of fact to which you are entering into as a new contract of insurance.

The questions can vary wildly - and if the question is asked in such a way that precludes you from having to inform them of this little incident then I'd take kind advantage of that for sure.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 20 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
On the phone with them now (On hold), apparently I paid for legal assistance which is a god send now and may be able to recover all costs from her side without affecting my no claims... nice Thumbs Up

Edit: So yes, she has insurance.


Heh, godsend legal cover Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been involved in two non fault claims, both of which my insurer has initially paid out on and recouped the costs from the other side.

Neither of these has effected my premium in any way.

Even when I got 4 points for a speeding offence, my insurance has only increased by £6 this year.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
And does that mean just because I am an innocent victim of SH*T driving that I'm gonna be shafted by insurance company's for the next 5 years?


Yep. Some drunken prick wrote my corrado off and my insurance more than doubled! Starting to go down now but two years ago I was quoted £800 tpft for a £200 1.4 civic but this year it's £500 fully comp on a 2ltr golf gti Surprised
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if you forget to put the side stand down in the garage and just walk away do you report that to the insurance?

If you drive into it with your car do you report that? If they are paying from their own pocket then there is no need to involve insurance at all.

If she tells her insurance you need to tell yours but tell them you are claiming from her nsurance and not your. Specifically tell them you do not want to claim against your policy at all. You also need an admission of full liability from her insurance and a statement from your insurance that it does not affect your no claims status.

I had it when a named driver was hit, the other party admitted full liability but my bike insurance found out about it and put my insurance up. I got the statement from the insurance and they backed down as full liability was admitted and all costs recovered from the other party!

Also they will try to fob you off but stick with it!
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I knew i'd be shafted I have avoided totally the insurance route.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Heh, godsend legal cover Laughing

"We may choose to 'pay' the fees for any case that, in our sole opinion, we would take on under a CFA anyway" ?
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
arry wrote:
Heh, godsend legal cover Laughing

"We may choose to 'pay' the fees for any case that, in our sole opinion, we would take on under a CFA anyway" ?


How dreadfully cynical of you old chap
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